getting walked out???
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 7ERA
Posts: 1,216
Here is some more advice from an old timer. Never give notice. When you want to quit, call in sick until you run out of sick time. Then let them know. Make sure you are home before they know or you may find yourself having to buy a ticket.
He is right. Think of it this way, if they were going to let you go for some reason, would they give you two weeks notice?
Two weeks notice is nice to have, but there is no legal precedent for it. You leave an airline, the odds are very, very small you will be going back there anyway. I would wait til I was in class at my new airline before giving notice.
#12
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 43
He is right. Think of it this way, if they were going to let you go for some reason, would they give you two weeks notice?
Two weeks notice is nice to have, but there is no legal precedent for it. You leave an airline, the odds are very, very small you will be going back there anyway. I would wait til I was in class at my new airline before giving notice.
Two weeks notice is nice to have, but there is no legal precedent for it. You leave an airline, the odds are very, very small you will be going back there anyway. I would wait til I was in class at my new airline before giving notice.
#13
When I left Eastern to go to work for Flying Tigers I walked into the chief pilot office in Atlanta at 4:45 P.M. and gave my notice I'll be leaving and start work on monday with another airline. Funny thing is that in the ALPA contract if for some reason it did not work out you had something like 30 or 60 days to come back. Don't believe that works today. But concur the 2 week notice is a pipe dream. I would not give my notice till I was assured I had a class date.... Just my thoughts..........
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#15
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: E170 FO
Posts: 686
If you did give two weeks notice and they escorted you out immediately, you would be eligible for unemployment. It would count as a layoff technically. You were available for work and the company decided they didn't need your services. Go collect you check, would might not be too bad depending on the state you live in.
#16
If you did give two weeks notice and they escorted you out immediately, you would be eligible for unemployment. It would count as a layoff technically. You were available for work and the company decided they didn't need your services. Go collect you check, would might not be too bad depending on the state you live in.
#17
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Joined APC: Sep 2005
Position: A 320 CA, retired
Posts: 89
If you did give two weeks notice and they escorted you out immediately, you would be eligible for unemployment. It would count as a layoff technically. You were available for work and the company decided they didn't need your services. Go collect you check, would might not be too bad depending on the state you live in.
HRDiva
#18
Problem is you can not do this. Your new employment will ask for a letter of resignation and a phone number to the chief pilot to make sure you are not getting paid by two companies. I would wait until you have a class date and two weeks out drop the notice if you are not sure how you will be treated.
#19
When I worked for Mesa years ago, there was a down turn in the industry so the company offered $5000 for anyone who would quit. I guess they did not want to incur the expense of a layoff and the associated training, unemployment etc. Anyway, one of our Brasilia captains got hired by SW so he told them he was leaving and expected to collect the five grand. Nope! They refused to pay because he had another job! Thanks again Jonathan O.
He made his last revenue trip to someplace like Santa Rosa or Stockton and called the company. Either they pay or he walks. They didn't pay so he rented a car and drove home leaving 30 pax stranded. He is now a 15 year SW captain.
Mesa did a similar thing to All WestAir pilots the last days of WestAir. They told them there would be a bonus to all those who stayed until the end. When the end came they changed their story and said the bonus was only for those without a collective bargain agreement. Thank you JO.
Most management is not as bad as JO and Mesa. If other airlines management has a problem with you leaving with short notice they can look no further than JO and airlines like Mesa if looking for someone to blame.
He made his last revenue trip to someplace like Santa Rosa or Stockton and called the company. Either they pay or he walks. They didn't pay so he rented a car and drove home leaving 30 pax stranded. He is now a 15 year SW captain.
Mesa did a similar thing to All WestAir pilots the last days of WestAir. They told them there would be a bonus to all those who stayed until the end. When the end came they changed their story and said the bonus was only for those without a collective bargain agreement. Thank you JO.
Most management is not as bad as JO and Mesa. If other airlines management has a problem with you leaving with short notice they can look no further than JO and airlines like Mesa if looking for someone to blame.
#20
Tried to quit my "real job" in IT, and they basically asked to negotiate a part-time deal for me. The big boss supports it, but the guy in the middle is being snarky, trying to cut me off. I've been in class for CAE plus doing 40hr/week remotely. Now the middle guy informs me he either has to resolve or accept my resignation tomorrow. I gave them a "terms" outline, and told them I'm OK whatever they decide. I gave them a weeks notice before I left for class, burning vacation while they figure it out. Of course, I had to step in and put out a fire for them, and now they are giving me grief. The whole "two weeks" thing is outdated. My only concern is the reference, and I have that worked out with the big boss.