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Old 08-29-2007 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mike734

He made his last revenue trip to someplace like Santa Rosa or Stockton and called the company. Either they pay or he walks. They didn't pay so he rented a car and drove home leaving 30 pax stranded. He is now a 15 year SW captain.


Epic mike!

When I left my regional I gave my '2 weeks' but my current gig rushed to put me in class so it actually ended up being 10 days. I had to call in sick for my last 3 trips to get my finances straight (downgraded the vehicle among other things). When I called crewskeds to call in 'sick' for my last trip they actually wished me well.
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Old 08-29-2007 | 07:33 PM
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Bravado is great and makes everyone feel great. But one never knows when he/she might need a recomendation letter or similar from that boss you just walked out on. The future is too uncertain in this industry to figure you are hired for life at your new job. Do the right thing and give notice. Your new job might not work out for whatever reason and you just might want back in at you old. Let them be the asses.

I left my last job with a 30 day notice and believe I left on excellent terms. Gave them a little recovery time and still on speaking/email terms with them. But I do agree, never resign or indicate so until you have a sure thing with your new job. Just do the right thing. Just my two fils worth.
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Old 08-29-2007 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cbire880
If you did give two weeks notice and they escorted you out immediately, you would be eligible for unemployment. It would count as a layoff technically. You were available for work and the company decided they didn't need your services. Go collect you check, would might not be too bad depending on the state you live in.
Unemployment law depends greatly on individual state statutes and case law. In Washington State, if you give two weeks notice and the employer does not allow you to serve out the two weeks (i.e., it asks you to leave right away or at some time before the two weeks is up), the case is adjudicated a termination/firing/discharge. At an unemployment hearing, the focus will shift to whether you had done something to cause your termination and whether this something rises to the level of "misconduct." "Layoff" is a very specific term with several elements that must be met first. People who are laid off are eligible for unemployment, and employers do not usually appeal this decision.
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Old 08-29-2007 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by vagabond
Unemployment law depends greatly on individual state statutes and case law. In Washington State, if you give two weeks notice and the employer does not allow you to serve out the two weeks (i.e., it asks you to leave right away or at some time before the two weeks is up), the case is adjudicated a termination/firing/discharge. At an unemployment hearing, the focus will shift to whether you had done something to cause your termination and whether this something rises to the level of "misconduct." "Layoff" is a very specific term with several elements that must be met first. People who are laid off are eligible for unemployment, and employers do not usually appeal this decision.
You're definitely right about unemployment varying between states. Here in Oklahoma (Which can actually be pretty stingy with programs such as this) they even consider getting discharged from the military as being "beyond your control" and award full unemployment benefits.
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Old 08-29-2007 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mike734
Here is some more advice from an old timer. Never give notice. When you want to quit, call in sick until you run out of sick time. Then let them know. Make sure you are home before they know or you may find yourself having to buy a ticket.
Don't forget to take your vacation days either.
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Old 08-30-2007 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton
Did your friend at SWA get paid for the time during his notice?

a buddy of mine was hired at a major pre 9-11 and told them he was leaving but never gave a 2 weeks notice because he hadn't gotten a class date yet. he was lucky enough to stay, but that was at a regional.

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I believe he was paid but I wouldn't testify to that in court if you know what I mean? We had that discussion well over a year ago. I'm doing well just to remember the meat of the story.

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Old 08-30-2007 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Outofthebox
Problem is you can not do this. Your new employment will ask for a letter of resignation and a phone number to the chief pilot to make sure you are not getting paid by two companies. I would wait until you have a class date and two weeks out drop the notice if you are not sure how you will be treated.
I know from personal experience that this is not true. I gave notice one day prior to my next trip. I used days off while in my first week of class. I'm not sure of the legality of using sick days, I didn't want to find out. My current employer could care less about my letter of resignation, as they never asked for one. My previous employers chief pilot said "good luck I hope you got something good". End of story.
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Old 08-30-2007 | 05:23 AM
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Oh, and my accrued vacation was paid out in full...
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Old 08-30-2007 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mike734

He made his last revenue trip to someplace like Santa Rosa or Stockton and called the company. Either they pay or he walks. They didn't pay so he rented a car and drove home leaving 30 pax stranded. He is now a 15 year SW captain.
Leaving someone stranded in Stockton. Now that is just mean.
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Old 08-30-2007 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyone
Bravado is great and makes everyone feel great. But one never knows when he/she might need a recomendation letter or similar from that boss you just walked out on. The future is too uncertain in this industry to figure you are hired for life at your new job. Do the right thing and give notice. Your new job might not work out for whatever reason and you just might want back in at you old. Let them be the asses.

I left my last job with a 30 day notice and believe I left on excellent terms. Gave them a little recovery time and still on speaking/email terms with them. But I do agree, never resign or indicate so until you have a sure thing with your new job. Just do the right thing. Just my two fils worth.
can I assume that you were friends with them before you left. that would make all the difference in the world. my buddy is relatively new without close ties to the chiefs. I'm also assuming you were with your last company for a while...CAL???
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