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Old 10-02-2007 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldfreightdawg
How do we manage to get so far from the orginal point in these theads? No wonder we can't negotiate respectable contracts. FOCUS

I know what you're say "Look a bird" oops my attention deficit disorder sorry.

Hey, i'm guilty of the occasional H@#*Jack a thread disorder.
I'll try to be better in the future.

It happens on all message boards.
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Old 10-02-2007 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyByCable
Analyst Jamie Baker of JP Morgan suggests that contract talks at American Airlines aren't likely to produce a steep increase in employee wages, and could even result in a pay cut. Here's what he said in a report:
We ascribe a 50% probability to a wage increase no larger than 10%, 30% probability to wage-neutral contracts, and 20% probability to lower wages. Yes, we just said 'lower wages'. Management and pilot rhetoric likely to deteriorate next year, but pilots know they're walking a tightrope. Any involvement of an NMB-appointed mediator down the road would likely focus on the fact that AMR wage rates are meaningfully higher than market to begin with. Sure, pilots may ask for hefty increases, but the facts remain: AMR wage rates are already uncompetitive, and negotiations are taking place against a backdrop of economic uncertainty. Not too shabby of a position for management, or stakeholders, to be in, in our view.
How about these estimates:
50% chance AA pilots won't ever press their uniforms, shine their shoes, call for fuel,
30% chance AA pilots don't add extra fuel causing diverts, play it safe and taxi SLOOOOOW, use all available sick time on all holidays, don't budge on any contractual items, do not pick up any open time.
20% chance AA pilots WALK.
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Old 10-02-2007 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotss
How about these estimates:
50% chance AA pilots won't ever press their uniforms, shine their shoes, call for fuel,
30% chance AA pilots don't add extra fuel causing diverts, play it safe and taxi SLOOOOOW, use all available sick time on all holidays, don't budge on any contractual items, do not pick up any open time.
20% chance AA pilots WALK.
Entertaining!

Not all of us are against JetBlue. So what's your story?

My wife takes all my stuff to the cleaners.
I don't get shoe shines that often.
I think the 80 has the most diverts for fuel.
I've never called in sick for a Holiday. Yes, i'm part chicken.
I'll walk, It won't be a long one, we'll get ordered back.
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Old 10-03-2007 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 7576FO
Ok, let's just for grins say Mr. Analyst dead-on.

And say the AA pilots take another pay cut. I currently make over 120K yr.
Say a 20% pay cut and basically keep the same work rules. Maybe a little more productivity of 3-5 extra hours a month.

Everybody chime in. Would it still be worth it? To you?
Would you come back form recall?
Would you interview for the job?
If you were a Regional guy would you flow thruogh?
If you were a regional guy/girl would you apply?

It matters more what you think then some Analyst.
Analysts are like weathermen, sometimes wrong.
OK, that's twice in this thread. The analyst said a 20% chance of a paycut, NOT a 20% chance of a 20% paycut...I hope people are better at deciphering the QRH or the MEL than they are on these boards...
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Old 10-03-2007 | 06:20 PM
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By saying "say a 20% pay cut" it meant hypothetically.

I was aware the Analyst wrote 20% chance of a pay cut.

Not being defensive here Skywatch, but you should take a look at Boeing QRH's I make mistakes on them. Flap malfunction and hydraulic malfuntions are difficult to figure out in the sim.

And don't get me started on the MEL's

You should hear me read Dr Seuss to my kid!
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