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Old 01-26-2008 | 02:49 AM
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Thanks Sully,

I figured as much. I've an 18 Feb indoc and, like the others, am trying to figure out this first pick. Haven't done the regional thing, but I can appreciate the comments.
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Old 01-26-2008 | 06:53 AM
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I know things are pretty dynamic when it comes to new hire aircraft assignments but why haven't there been many ATL slots. I thought I read somewhere the last AE had alot of slots open at least for the 88. Are they hurting that bad in NY or just know that people will bid out of NY the first chance they get.
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Old 01-26-2008 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Maddoggin
I know things are pretty dynamic when it comes to new hire aircraft assignments but why haven't there been many ATL slots. I thought I read somewhere the last AE had alot of slots open at least for the 88. Are they hurting that bad in NY or just know that people will bid out of NY the first chance they get.

Like everybody has been saying ATL is the place to be. My guess is the newhires already on the line are bidding out of NYC as soon as they can. ATL has no problem maintaining their manning through attrition from NYC.
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Old 01-26-2008 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
JFK 7ER drivers or "have dones",

I live in Houston, TX and I wonder if it would be possible to sit the 12-hour call out from home..
I know it is a stretch and I wonder if anyone has done/doing it.

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If the weather in the Northest is good, you may be able to make it work. When bad weather hits and flights get delayed, it becomes a real challenge to make it in. The commuting policy requires a primary and a backup at least two hours later, both flights must have available seats based on your seniority and standby priority in order to be covered under the contract.

Most reports are in the afternoon, but not all. You could get the Costa Rica trip with a morning sign in. If you get called at 9PM, could you make a 9AM report (on your 2+ hour backup) and be well rested?

Sitting your last two days of long call at home when the shortest trip is three days may be an option if your on call period is backed up by a hard day off. It's a minimal risk. Sitting your entire long call from Houston isn't worth the risk during probation.
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Old 01-26-2008 | 01:42 PM
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$250 a month crash pads does not seem like a killer. What am I missing?
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Old 01-26-2008 | 02:15 PM
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The only problem with being based in ATL is that you have to fly with ATL pilots.

All the cool crews fly out of NYC.
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Old 01-26-2008 | 02:49 PM
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I would think the NY crews were cooler, at least because of the climate...
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Old 01-26-2008 | 03:48 PM
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ER pilots: Do you guys really rotate the landings if the IRO needs one? Sweet. At AA letting the IRO snag a landing is like pulling teeth. He usually ends up at the schoolhouse every three months for currency.

At least that's how it is on the 777. On the 767 NYC, there are tons of two-pilot caribbean turns along with the Europe/SA three-pilot stuff, so you can always stay current if you need to.

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Old 01-26-2008 | 03:49 PM
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Well, it seems like the NYC crews fly to the outstations and get the warm weather overnights while the ATL crews get to go up North.

The Atlanta and CVG crews are very good folks.
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Old 01-28-2008 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
If the weather in the Northest is good, you may be able to make it work. When bad weather hits and flights get delayed, it becomes a real challenge to make it in. The commuting policy requires a primary and a backup at least two hours later, both flights must have available seats based on your seniority and standby priority in order to be covered under the contract.

Most reports are in the afternoon, but not all. You could get the Costa Rica trip with a morning sign in. If you get called at 9PM, could you make a 9AM report (on your 2+ hour backup) and be well rested?

Sitting your last two days of long call at home when the shortest trip is three days may be an option if your on call period is backed up by a hard day off. It's a minimal risk. Sitting your entire long call from Houston isn't worth the risk during probation.
Also, the commuting policy doesn't technically apply to reserve:

Pilots assume responsibility for arriving at their domicile in sufficient time and with adequate rest, in accordance with the FARs, prior to beginning scheduled duty. The “Call in Honest” policy is intended to recognize that prudent planning can, on rare occasions, be foiled by unforeseen circumstances. It is not intended to solve problems caused by poor planning. This policy applies to pilots who are regular line holders and international pilots on ultra long call reserve. This policy does not apply to domestic reserve and international reserve pilots either on short call or long call, except when returning from duty immediately following “X” days.
Anyone have any idea what "international ... ultra long call reserve" is? Is that like "double secret probation?"
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