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johnso29 02-07-2008 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by airjl (Post 316478)
You are right, but thats the reality that we all have to live with.


I'd venture to say you wouldn't feel that way if you were hired at TWA in 1999, or if you have been at UsAir for 20+ years. That kind of mentality is not a reality we have to live with. Its greed that people chose to live with.

airjl 02-07-2008 08:16 PM

You're right! That's exactly what the NWA pilots will get too!

johnso29 02-07-2008 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by airjl (Post 316485)
You're right! That's exactly what the NWA pilots will get too!

O.K. We'll just see if it even happens.:rolleyes:

Eric Stratton 02-07-2008 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 316481)
I'd venture to say you wouldn't feel that way if you were hired at TWA in 1999, or if you have been at UsAir for 20+ years. That kind of mentality is not a reality we have to live with. Its greed that people chose to live with.

and how would you feel if you were at a commuter or a flight instructor who watched the majors screw over your career by giving up 50 seat scope followed by 70 and some 90 seaters.

pilots like to talk unity but there really isn't any in this business. its all me me me...sad but true

bcrosier 02-08-2008 06:58 AM

It won't change until we decide to change it. The excuse "That's what they'd do" doesn't make it right. Do you want a better future for everyone, or just yourself?

Superpilot92 02-08-2008 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by airjl (Post 316485)
You're right! That's exactly what the NWA pilots will get too!

Wow your full of all kinds of helpful and insightful "opinions" arent you?:rolleyes:

Superpilot92 02-08-2008 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by bcrosier (Post 316692)
It won't change until we decide to change it. The excuse "That's what they'd do" doesn't make it right. Do you want a better future for everyone, or just yourself?

Absolutely!! Things need to change.

captjns 02-08-2008 07:20 AM

Start up carriers without heavy baggage is looking better and better these days. Sure there is an element of risk involved with a new carrier, but upgrade will come sooner than with current carriers.

Superpilot92 02-08-2008 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 316709)
Start up carriers without heavy baggage is looking better and better these days. Sure there is an element of risk involved with a new carrier, but upgrade will come sooner than with current carriers.



You will never know until you retire. Look at the new hires at CAL 3 years ago. They can already hold captain. There is a 28 year old captain at CAL. Its all about timing and luck.;)

Eric Stratton 02-08-2008 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by bcrosier (Post 316692)
It won't change until we decide to change it. The excuse "That's what they'd do" doesn't make it right. Do you want a better future for everyone, or just yourself?

unfortunately their needs to be some leadership at the top and their isn't any right now. it's all about the me...


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