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Old 02-12-2008 | 03:08 PM
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This isn't just the camel's nose under the tent . . the camel's IN the tent now.[/quote]



Does that include the camel's toe?

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Old 02-12-2008 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton
I believe the president can only postpone a strike for 30 or 60 days...not stop it entirely. if that is actually the case then it is the first time I've ever heard that, or that congress can step in and impose their own contract on a carrier.
That's correct. I left out specifics for brevity. From my experience it goes like this: direct negotiations, proffer for mediation, release into a 30 day "cooling off" and "super mediation". After the cooling off period if there is no agreement either side is free to exercise "self help". The president can intervene for an additional 60 day period to allow a PEB to convene and present recommendations. Then it's back to "self help". Congress is allowed to end the strike and impose whatever contract is left on the table, or their own version of one.
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Old 02-13-2008 | 09:15 PM
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Gents,

Thanks for taking the time to reply. The situation continues to deteriorate, our CEO has offered verbal guarantees but will not shift on the central issue - a common seniority list. Verbal guarantees, though we have some respect for Willie are worth very little. We want to see appropriate amendments to our Agreement Schedule that deals with this corner of the business.
They will not play ball nor even look at the alternative which is to have us fly the OS aircraft.
You don't need to be a clairvoyant to see what's coming. You guys have been through this before.

Like you we have labor requirements when contemplating industrial action. We have taken the necessary steps to satisfy legal niceties, it looks as though we will be going for it. Willie has history for negotiating hard at the ninth hour but he has frozen his position - it does look likely that he too will go for arbitration. I personally don't trust the arbitrators as they are unlikely to understand the deeper issues or the threats. Who expects others to take on board what seniority means and the effect of the parasite on the pilot force in these circumstances. They will just look at the business case and rule on that. It certainly seems to be what happened with AA and AE. A carbon copy case.

We await the outcome with interest and are checking our piggy banks.
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Old 02-14-2008 | 02:14 AM
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Nobody who flies at BA is ignoring the camel in the corner of the tent I can assure you.

As ever though, there are those that are sitting there convinced that the sun is shining when in reality, it's raining and the canvas is about to rip.
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