How can I shut him up?
02-15-2008 | 01:00 PM
#51
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Always handle things in this order:
1. Try to resolve it with the offending individual. Talk.
If that doesn't work,
2. Tell your captain you are taking the matter to pro stan and go to your union professional standards rep. He should have a more formal chat with the guy. Usually this clears things up. Stress to him that you feel this is a safety issue that is not being fixed at the flight deck level. Nothing personal.
3. If you fly with him after this and he persists, then you can tell him if he doesn't knock it off, you are gonna rat on him to the CP. The professional Mr. Nice Guy approach didn't work and now you have to be a d*ck. Sometimes, some people don't respond to anything but disciplinary action. This is your last resort...even though you are in the right, you probably won't be very popular after doing this. Sometimes the right thing isn't the easy thing.
And calling in sick only dumps this problem captain on some other, possibly less assertive, first officer. You wouldn't be doing a responsible job by doing this.
Just my $00.02.
1. Try to resolve it with the offending individual. Talk.
If that doesn't work,
2. Tell your captain you are taking the matter to pro stan and go to your union professional standards rep. He should have a more formal chat with the guy. Usually this clears things up. Stress to him that you feel this is a safety issue that is not being fixed at the flight deck level. Nothing personal.
3. If you fly with him after this and he persists, then you can tell him if he doesn't knock it off, you are gonna rat on him to the CP. The professional Mr. Nice Guy approach didn't work and now you have to be a d*ck. Sometimes, some people don't respond to anything but disciplinary action. This is your last resort...even though you are in the right, you probably won't be very popular after doing this. Sometimes the right thing isn't the easy thing.
And calling in sick only dumps this problem captain on some other, possibly less assertive, first officer. You wouldn't be doing a responsible job by doing this.
Just my $00.02.
02-15-2008 | 01:07 PM
#52
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Thought you were flame bait or worse...some kid throwing barbs.
I'm actually lord of both seats in the 135...and a zipper-suited sky-god.
Last edited by blastoff; 02-15-2008 at 01:18 PM.
02-15-2008 | 02:52 PM
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Man, this may sound drastic, and I hate to sound so anal, but I would call the chief on this. Simply because you would be held just as responsable for any violation (or worse) which may come from this guy yapping at the wrong time.
On a side note, I am not sure who you fly for. I am just an FO-in-training and have yet to go to sim. But my company spent several hours in indoc hammering this very situation into our heads. I could be completely over reacting here. Just my 2 cents.
On a side note, I am not sure who you fly for. I am just an FO-in-training and have yet to go to sim. But my company spent several hours in indoc hammering this very situation into our heads. I could be completely over reacting here. Just my 2 cents.
After reading this advice, I believe it.
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02-15-2008 | 03:41 PM
#55
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I hate to this, but sometimes fear or nervousness may make people act this way.
02-15-2008 | 04:12 PM
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Well with as much experience as he has (or lack there of) he should be concerned about passing initial and learning the airplane....I just love it when people post advice on this site without having a clue what they're talking about....
02-15-2008 | 06:34 PM
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