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Old 03-05-2008 | 04:16 PM
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What is the latest happenings with the AA contract talks? Still stalled?
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Old 03-05-2008 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by aircraftdriver
What is the latest happenings with the AA contract talks? Still stalled?
You can go to the APA website and find out the latest and greatest. I plan to support my brothers there if they walk. Hope they get want they want and deserve.
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Old 03-06-2008 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaggy1970
I plan to support my brothers there if they walk.
How do you plan on supporting them if they walk? Are you going to stop flying as well?

Not to sound like a Di@k but I have to laugh. Freight that would be left on the ramp will just be put on the freighters and passengers will be put on the airplane at the very next gate.

The pilot group is a "all about me" club. Thanks for your support.
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Old 03-06-2008 | 05:43 AM
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disregard.....

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Old 03-06-2008 | 05:57 AM
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I know that is why I said it.

Saying you'll support and actually supporting it is two different things.

I am guessing Shaggy1970 is a furloughed AA pilot..... just a guess.

on a side note, I am just to blame as well. Durning the NW strike we were carrying their passengers while they fought with management. Sure I told the jump seater "great job" and "fight the fight". But really those are just words and nothing else. Did ALPA tell all pilots to park airplanes durning the NW strike? NO they did not. We need to all be "one" and "not" just a bunch of fractional groups of one.
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Old 03-06-2008 | 06:05 AM
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Sorry, this is just my frustration towards the industry. CrAApy work rules, crAApy pay, concessionary contracts, sub contract flying, furloughs, stapling, age 65, and anything else I missed.

It is not industry or career it once was and it will never get back to what it was either. This makes me sad and very frustrated as I sit though my "midlife crises" with nothing to really show for.
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Old 03-06-2008 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by NoWake200
I know that is why I said it.

Saying you'll support and actually supporting it is two different things.

I am guessing Shaggy1970 is a furloughed AA pilot..... just a guess.

on a side note, I am just to blame as well. Durning the NW strike we were carrying their passengers while they fought with management. Sure I told the jump seater "great job" and "fight the fight". But really those are just words and nothing else. Did ALPA tell all pilots to park airplanes durning the NW strike? NO they did not. We need to all be "one" and "not" just a bunch of fractional groups of one.
huge pay cuts
loss of pensions
contracts gutted
handing flying to the regions

you would think pilots would try and do something different but they continue doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. I don't believe we have seen the bottom yet...
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Old 03-06-2008 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by NoWake200
Sorry, this is just my frustration towards the industry. CrAApy work rules, crAApy pay, concessionary contracts, sub contract flying, furloughs, stapling, age 65, and anything else I missed.

It is not industry or career it once was and it will never get back to what it was either. This makes me sad and very frustrated as I sit though my "midlife crises" with nothing to really show for.
Not to make you even more depressed, but you left out the skyrocketing oil price. At this rate, I don't know how the airline industry can survive. We need a President with a pair of balls to tell oil companies to stick it where it belongs.
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Old 03-06-2008 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed
Not to make you even more depressed, but you left out the skyrocketing oil price. At this rate, I don't know how the airline industry can survive. We need a President with a pair of balls to tell oil companies to stick it where it belongs.
How about raising airfares? You see the oil companies charging the same prices from back in the 80's when oil was only $50/barrel? Airlines Execs need to get a clue.
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Old 03-06-2008 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed
Not to make you even more depressed, but you left out the skyrocketing oil price. At this rate, I don't know how the airline industry can survive. We need a President with a pair of balls to tell oil companies to stick it where it belongs.
What does the President have to do with the price of a global commodity like oil?
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