We'll never know what goes into the minds of those who are not in our position in life; and have not made the decisions that we have. Likewise, I cannot expect anyone to know why I make the decisions that I do since they have not or will not know the full ramifications of the decisions that I have made or will make in the future.

You weren't that guy they caught in the woods are you? :p

You don't have to be 60 to retire. You need to be over 50 and have 20 years in. Right now, it looks like all the legacy carriers will threaten bankruptcy.
I think CAL will lose 300 or more guys this summer (to get their lump sum) and there will be no talk of furloughs.
Just like at Delta, but let's hope they don't come back as 'contract' pilots.

I've been hearing alot of old dudes talking retirement as well. We also need to remember that the union is about to open Section 6 in the negotiations so let's not buy too much into management's sky is falling furlough rumors yet, it's a scare tactic in my opinion.

Unless you've been living under a rock for the past few days, I don't think the airlines have to bluff too much......things ARE that bad. Airlines don't just park airplanes to "fake" the sky falling down.

Park them. Mark ticket prices up. I don't give a ****. The money for the company to survive is not coming out of my family's savings account. Look somewhere else other than your employees for revenue. 1500 out of 5000 at CAL hired since 2005. Another 1000 or so hire in late 90's. All of us junior enough to go find another job. Must not be hurting to bad all the bonuses the managment took this year. Don't fall for the bull****...again.:rolleyes:

I would rather go back to troughing than work under another bad contract. True times are tough, but I'm willing to drag negotiations out for another 5 years, then get retro pay.

I don't believe it is bull****, but I do agree with your post. Management always gets theirs; good times or bad.:mad:

Don't wish so hard or you might just get your wish.......... You may be able to start working on your family's savings account if things continue the way they are, and then you'll be PRAYING for them to unpark those planes. Finding a job isn't as easy as you seem to think it is. A LOT of people are scrounging for minimally paying jobs as we speak. I agree that the money shouldn't come out of our pockets, but until our country's leadership gets nasty, and I mean REALLY nasty with OPEC and the speculators who are causing this problem in our industry, NOTHING is going to be done to help us out. Until then, WE, the airlines, will be considered the culprits. I've noticed how all the bad news concerning the airlines is seems to always be undercut by the "dismal" airline rankings and customer satisfaction. The public is only getting PART of the story. Fuel is killing us, but they don't know the airlines are paying upwards of $35 a bbl MORE for oil than the general public. It's time EVERYONE had an idea of how much this jet fuel is REALLY costing us. Then again, it's almost getting to the point where we'll just be priced out of business, then what? I guess all the airlines parking planes should result in an overage of jet fuel, so that should cause prices to drop dramatically, but you want to bet which way it goes?...................:(:rolleyes:

I agree, but unfortunately, when you're the biggest fish on the food chain, you will ALWAYS get your meal first...............:(