Makes good sense, but if all the RJ's were on mainline's list it would solve so many other problems. If you as a NB or WB pilot were faced with getting bumped back into RJ's you could simply take a Vol LOA if you didn't want to do the RJ again. Company would rather you take a LOA than furlough a junior, lower-paid guy.

Then even so, they should have taken it or picked up and left. If you don't like it, you don't have to put up with it.

And if the majority of mainline guys at all the legacies ad their various unions did not give into scope, we would not be in all of this today. RJs should have been mainline, same w/props, but hey, a lot of those guys felt the RJs and props just weren't good enough for them and they got what they got.
And QOL for pilots suffers today because of it. But it is what it is, and I do what I do because it is what I want to do for now.

Uhh, sorry to break it to you guys but the regional life actually isn't that bad anymore.

• I haven't had a pairing yet that has had more than 3-4 legs a day, MAYBE.
• We only fly to mainline fields ie: DFW, JFK, MIA etc. (At least on the 170.)
• My average flight is not 18 to 35 min. it's more like 2:15 to 3:15 block on average.
• I had 17 days off last month with about 94 credit hours (pretty senior, if you call only 3 years senior)
• My quality of life is great! Never spent a day on reserve.

Now my point is not to gloat or rub anyone the wrong way, My 2 best friends are caught up in the cluster at UAL and I feel for EACH and EVERY one of you affected, but don't knock the regionals. OK, Pay sucks I admit and we need better contracts, duly noted, but I love my job. This is not your grandaddy's commuter anymore.

PS: UAL pilots are welcome on my JS anytime!

Which kind of makes my point. Those flights should be and were at one time a guppy or airbus. Over at CAL, they still are. Of course, CAL wasn't in bankruptcy the last time around. That is when the scope was gutted.

Brilliant...Could not have been the bankruptcy and the whole abrogating the contract threat. It was my fault. OK. 70 seaters were not allowed until the bankruptcy contract. If UAL had stayed out of the courts, maybe we could have held on to our scope and stagnated our commuters like ol' AMR and CAL. How is Eagle doing anyway?:p

They are? Why did Continental Express get 275 RJ's? Lost 70 of them, but CAL has a few other regionals flying for them now too. CAL is dumping 100+ 737-300/500's over the next two years too. CAL is no different. Their express carriers do a lot of the flying. Some flights over 3 hours.

Per management, look for AA and Continental to drop scope soon, GUARENTEED!
It's up to mainline drivers and your union to keep scope alive, but in this economic enviroment, not sure there's a leg to stand on. If scope is relieved, look for 190's in express colors docking at a jetbridge near you soon.

Well, at least you realize your pay sucks. And here's the problem: It's going to suck tomorrow, and the day after, and the day after that......It's probably no big deal for you right now, as you're no doubt 20-something and living with mom and dad. But give it a decade or so, you'll most likely be married, have a kid or two, with a house and mortgage. When that day comes, I highly doubt you'll be posting on a message board how great life is. Especially after some 20-something year olds come along who are willing to work for even less than what you make, and airline management is more than happy to shift the flying to them.

Absolutely right.........

Newsflash: PAY SUCKS EVERYWHERE! Not just my outfit but yours (majors) as well, I'm sure you knew that. It's (the industry) never going to go back to the Eastern and Pan Am heydays..NEVER! We can rally and hold hands all we want and hope for a turnaround but let's face reality, what my dad made at Braniff back in the days is not happening anymore.

I can (A) cry and ***** about it all day like some of my old captains do for the entire 4 days :rolleyes:, or
I can (B) try to make the best of what I have, enjoy my job, and thank god I don't make 5$ foot longs for a living.

You have to realize, the majority of the newbies in this industry has never had what you had in your heyday. We NEVER had pensions. We NEVER got $300/hr to fly one leg a day and have 7 flight attendants (under 30 and hot mind you) follow us around like the master aviators we are. We NEVER flew a flight where it was mandatory to wear a suit and get get meals served on fine china. I could go on, but I won't. Bottom line, I LOVE MY JOB..Ooops, almost said career. I used to wanna do my time and then go to a major like the majority of my regional peers but to be honest, I don't mind staying where I'm at, topping out in the low 100's, OK trips and great QOL. The majors?? You can have it. Now, overseas is a whole different ballgame.

PS: I am married and have a mortgage BOTH of which I budgeted for on my measly salary. No ex wife (flight attendant) and child support (pilot error) also helps the situation :o