UAL seniority numbers
07-02-2008, 06:45 AM
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UAL seniority numbers
The 7/1/2008 seniority numbers are out. UAL only updates the numbers once per year. The bottom guy is 7747. That is 1000 less than my new hire number in 1997. 950 furloughs have been announced. As a coincidence, UAX now has 250 RJs flying around. RJ to a mainline guy stands for R Jobs. 
07-02-2008, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
They are/were your jobs. Unfortunately, mainline pilots decided to give them up.
07-02-2008, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jsled
The 7/1/2008 seniority numbers are out. UAL only updates the numbers once per year. The bottom guy is 7747. That is 1000 less than my new hire number in 1997. 950 furloughs have been announced. As a coincidence, UAX now has 250 RJs flying around. RJ to a mainline guy stands for R Jobs.
07-02-2008, 08:05 AM
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let me start off by saying that i don't know that much about the ins and outs of contracts however if i were a mainline pilot at the negotiating table, i would see that while the RJ is here to stay I would not want to be the one that is giving them flying. Why not try and make the few jobs at mainline xyz, that much better, and try to say something in a contract like; if the company does any shrinking that it has to shrink the express side first before any cuts can be imposed on the mainline side of things.
just a thought
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07-02-2008, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by themotleyfool
let me start off by saying that i don't know that much about the ins and outs of contracts however if i were a mainline pilot at the negotiating table, i would see that while the RJ is here to stay I would not want to be the one that is giving them flying. Why not try and make the few jobs at mainline xyz, that much better, and try to say something in a contract like; if the company does any shrinking that it has to shrink the express side first before any cuts can be imposed on the mainline side of things.
just a thought
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just a thought
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The problem is that the company would want something in return for doing that...ie paycuts or some other concession (work rules). So you have to convince the senior guys to give up a little in order to benefit the bottom part of the list.
If you want soemthing they will demand something in return.
07-02-2008, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by contrail67
Will be interesting to see if any language in the TA regarding furloughs, deals with jobs at the regionals.....and how that will happen. It is one of the negotiating items...sure is quiet from the MEC as they work through this and come up with a real number for us. Still no official number of furloughs, just the company idea of furloughs.
This "lets wait and see" about furloughs can not hold out much longer. With reduced schedules, downsizing, and bleeding of $$ as every hour as business passes, the furloughs are more than just a "company idea".
Not doom or gloom.....just living the reality.
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07-02-2008, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jsled
The 7/1/2008 seniority numbers are out. UAL only updates the numbers once per year. The bottom guy is 7747. That is 1000 less than my new hire number in 1997. 950 furloughs have been announced. As a coincidence, UAX now has 250 RJs flying around. RJ to a mainline guy stands for R Jobs.
Will the company allow you guys to lower your maximums so as to mitigate furloughs? I heard your 320 and 737 pilots are flying up to 95 hours per month, which is waaaay too much. I was beat when NWA forced us up to 89 hours after only a few months. If they won't give it, maybe you guys/gals should take it, if you get my drift.
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07-02-2008, 09:49 AM
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I dont know many mainline pilots who would want to fly BOS to PVD 6 times in a day in an RJ with the quality support from a regional airline.
I lived with a bunch of AA flow backs to AE and they HATED it. They all agreed if they know what it was going to be like they would have never done it.
Yes, some ok mainline flights got down graded to RJ's e.i. ORD to AUS but dont forget about all of the 18 to 35 min legs that are the bulk of the commuter pilot's world. Yes, its a job but not a very good quality of life and not worth the money. After making it to the majors I dont want to go back a RJ. I personally would rather wait it out and support my family better with a different job than go an fly an RJ. Some people may disagree or even be offended by this, but after 7 years at two regionals its how I feel.
I lived with a bunch of AA flow backs to AE and they HATED it. They all agreed if they know what it was going to be like they would have never done it.
Yes, some ok mainline flights got down graded to RJ's e.i. ORD to AUS but dont forget about all of the 18 to 35 min legs that are the bulk of the commuter pilot's world. Yes, its a job but not a very good quality of life and not worth the money. After making it to the majors I dont want to go back a RJ. I personally would rather wait it out and support my family better with a different job than go an fly an RJ. Some people may disagree or even be offended by this, but after 7 years at two regionals its how I feel.
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