Virgin America Wins Best Domestic Airline from Travel + Leisure
07-10-2008, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Why change if the business model and operations are working and acceptable to MGT, Pilots, F/A's, and customers?
You know the old saying... "If it ain't broke... then don't fix it."
You know the old saying... "If it ain't broke... then don't fix it."
for some reason I think the entire airline system is currently broke.
07-10-2008, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ITSALLGOOD
Sorry Flyin...you should have been in the first line as well. Didn't mean to leave you out.
No worries ITSALLGOOD, It's all good. Just happy to have a job and a cool new start trek outfit to boot
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07-11-2008, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueBus
Wow, you are pretty sensitive aren't you. I don't remember you being so uptight in your posts back during your OH days. If you get some blue tails then great. Better that we control our growth during the tough times by selling airplanes than by growing like crazy into unprofitable oversaturated markets wouldn't you say?
I believe that applies to most that respond here!
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07-13-2008, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton
so no pay raises because it's acceptable to them...
for some reason I think the entire airline system is currently broke.
for some reason I think the entire airline system is currently broke.
What happens when a company no longer meets that satisfaction of the employee? They fire the company and move on.
There are many opportunities out their for pilots in the corporate sector and overseas that contain good T & Cs.
The pay and benefits of the old legacy carriers are a thing of the past, and there's no sight of restoration of pay or benefits in sight.
07-13-2008, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by captjns
What happens when an employee does not perform to the expectations of the employee? They are terminated by the company.
What happens when a company no longer meets that satisfaction of the employee? They fire the company and move on.
There are many opportunities out their for pilots in the corporate sector and overseas that contain good T & Cs.
The pay and benefits of the old legacy carriers are a thing of the past, and there's no sight of restoration of pay or benefits in sight.
What happens when a company no longer meets that satisfaction of the employee? They fire the company and move on.
There are many opportunities out their for pilots in the corporate sector and overseas that contain good T & Cs.
The pay and benefits of the old legacy carriers are a thing of the past, and there's no sight of restoration of pay or benefits in sight.
2. That's all nice and fluffy but we both know that isn't the real world of an airline pilot.
3. I'm sure there are good jobs in other countries but I like my country and would like to stay here along with 95% of the other pilots here. As for corporate I've seen some of their lives and didn't care for it.
4. You are correct on that because airlines like Virgin America, jetblue and airtran will continue to pop up and lower the bar while their pilots continue to say it's not my fault, management won't pay me more.
07-13-2008, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton
so no pay raises because it's acceptable to them...
07-13-2008, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred Flintstone
Well actually we should have been pressing for pay raises by now, but with the rest of the industry furloughing it would be a really tough sell to the investors. What's first year pay at CAL UAL et all after the furloughs? Zero?
07-13-2008, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred Flintstone
Well actually we should have been pressing for pay raises by now, but with the rest of the industry furloughing it would be a really tough sell to the investors. What's first year pay at CAL UAL et all after the furloughs? Zero?
what are the other years like?
when you eventually have people upgrading in three years what year do they start captain pay at?
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