A new 747 start-up: Cargo 360
11-25-2006 | 10:09 PM
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I honestly don't have any idea of you can get your foot in the door! Their website says "prospects who call us will be eliminated from future interviews"; I asked them about this! They said because of their staffing levels, they don't want anyone calling them. So, bottom line: I don't know. As for why they called me, I guess its because I have been flying they whale for 6 years now. Sorry I haven't helped much.
If you want to my advice? I'd say, take the gloves off and call them. If you have had your information posted with them for quite a while and can talk the talk, what do you have to loose?
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12-03-2006 | 04:14 PM
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I did the online app about 11 months ago. Kept it updated. I was surprised they called because 10 months had gone by and nothing. Suddenly in October, I had quit my job and (after reading what spongebob said about them) decided to update my online information for Cargo 360 which showed I wasn't working for anyone. A week later, they called me. Next class is Jan. 8th. They start interviewing for that class next week.
I honestly don't have any idea of you can get your foot in the door! Their website says "prospects who call us will be eliminated from future interviews"; I asked them about this! They said because of their staffing levels, they don't want anyone calling them. So, bottom line: I don't know. As for why they called me, I guess its because I have been flying they whale for 6 years now. Sorry I haven't helped much.
If you want to my advice? I'd say, take the gloves off and call them. If you have had your information posted with them for quite a while and can talk the talk, what do you have to loose?
I honestly don't have any idea of you can get your foot in the door! Their website says "prospects who call us will be eliminated from future interviews"; I asked them about this! They said because of their staffing levels, they don't want anyone calling them. So, bottom line: I don't know. As for why they called me, I guess its because I have been flying they whale for 6 years now. Sorry I haven't helped much.
If you want to my advice? I'd say, take the gloves off and call them. If you have had your information posted with them for quite a while and can talk the talk, what do you have to loose?
How did your interview go? Did you hear anything yet?
12-04-2006 | 07:43 AM
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360 Interview....
Yes I did. I'm just going to add to previous post and try not to repeat what Spongebob has said because everything he said was true.
The Good:
1. Crew ratio of 7 to 1 - This means you will flying instead of sitting in hotels. So if your like me and would rather work than play, you will definately work there.
2. They have signed a lease on two 744's that they will take delivery of early 2008.
3. The three acft they have right now are all averaging about 400 hours a month. This means they are flying their asses off and making money.
4. 2 747-200's and one 747-300's all came off the assembly line around the same time so they are the same (no differences training except the subtle differences of the -300)
5. $67.50 FO/FE pay, $110 Capt pay 60 hr guarantee (This is in the upper middle area of what other 747 ACMI outfits pay).
6. $2000 a month while in training (This is double what other ACMI outfits pay)
6. Blue Cross/Blue Shield Primera PPO with no clause for pre-existing conditions
7. A very productive and long term lucritive ACMI agreement with Korean Air.
8. 6 days paid annual vacation and 12 days paid sick leave a year. All paid back at the end of the year if not used.
The bad:
1. Two year training contract $16,000. They have you write two checks that they will not cash for $8,000 a peice unless you leave or get fired.
2. Seattle based so whenever you have to go to Seattle it's on your dime. This includes INDOC training which is one week.
3. No pay raises! They want to start a profit sharing program in 2008. Maybe it will happen, maybe not. No Guarantees.
4. Per diem: 1 dollar an hour while in training and $2 an hour while on the line. Only paid when you are not flying! If you have ever spent time in Incheon, you will soon discover this will hardly cover any expenses while there.
5. No bid lines! So you really don't know from month to month when your going to be working. I don't know what happens if you get extended into your days that you are suppose to be home other than I believe no extra pay.
6. Health Insurance starts in your third month and as Sponge said you have to get a Seattle address for this.... So does that mean all my Health Benefits info is mailed to the Seattle address? What of my PCP? Does it have to be in Washington also? I couldn't get answers on this or what my premium would be.
7. The 744's are a lease
8. No accruel of sick leave or Vacation
9. All there acft are Pratt powered "R" model engines (Fuel guzzling old engines, hard to start in high ambient conditions and hard to get parts for)
Thats all I can think of right now. They only fly Incheon to Ancorage (Tech Stop) than either LA, Chicago, New York, or Atlanta.
I think they are a solid company with good management (All of Company management have many years of aviation experience - most came from Delta so they are new to ACMI Cargo but from an employee point of view this won't matter much).
The two year training contract is the big stickler for me. This means they can abuse the **** out of me for two years. Based on the fact there are no guarantees of pay increases after the first or second year, my impression is they will probably abuse the employee for the first two years.
Everything written here is subject to change because they kept re-iterating to me that this is "Currently" what we are offering.
The interview was very easy, they did most of the talking, I just sat and listened. They gave me a couple of scenarios and asked what i would do... All common sense stuff.
I don't know if I got hired. They are waiting to interview everyone before they make any hiring decisions. I believe I did very well in the interview. We had a good rapport.
The Good:
1. Crew ratio of 7 to 1 - This means you will flying instead of sitting in hotels. So if your like me and would rather work than play, you will definately work there.
2. They have signed a lease on two 744's that they will take delivery of early 2008.
3. The three acft they have right now are all averaging about 400 hours a month. This means they are flying their asses off and making money.
4. 2 747-200's and one 747-300's all came off the assembly line around the same time so they are the same (no differences training except the subtle differences of the -300)
5. $67.50 FO/FE pay, $110 Capt pay 60 hr guarantee (This is in the upper middle area of what other 747 ACMI outfits pay).
6. $2000 a month while in training (This is double what other ACMI outfits pay)
6. Blue Cross/Blue Shield Primera PPO with no clause for pre-existing conditions
7. A very productive and long term lucritive ACMI agreement with Korean Air.
8. 6 days paid annual vacation and 12 days paid sick leave a year. All paid back at the end of the year if not used.
The bad:
1. Two year training contract $16,000. They have you write two checks that they will not cash for $8,000 a peice unless you leave or get fired.
2. Seattle based so whenever you have to go to Seattle it's on your dime. This includes INDOC training which is one week.
3. No pay raises! They want to start a profit sharing program in 2008. Maybe it will happen, maybe not. No Guarantees.
4. Per diem: 1 dollar an hour while in training and $2 an hour while on the line. Only paid when you are not flying! If you have ever spent time in Incheon, you will soon discover this will hardly cover any expenses while there.
5. No bid lines! So you really don't know from month to month when your going to be working. I don't know what happens if you get extended into your days that you are suppose to be home other than I believe no extra pay.
6. Health Insurance starts in your third month and as Sponge said you have to get a Seattle address for this.... So does that mean all my Health Benefits info is mailed to the Seattle address? What of my PCP? Does it have to be in Washington also? I couldn't get answers on this or what my premium would be.
7. The 744's are a lease
8. No accruel of sick leave or Vacation
9. All there acft are Pratt powered "R" model engines (Fuel guzzling old engines, hard to start in high ambient conditions and hard to get parts for)
Thats all I can think of right now. They only fly Incheon to Ancorage (Tech Stop) than either LA, Chicago, New York, or Atlanta.
I think they are a solid company with good management (All of Company management have many years of aviation experience - most came from Delta so they are new to ACMI Cargo but from an employee point of view this won't matter much).
The two year training contract is the big stickler for me. This means they can abuse the **** out of me for two years. Based on the fact there are no guarantees of pay increases after the first or second year, my impression is they will probably abuse the employee for the first two years.
Everything written here is subject to change because they kept re-iterating to me that this is "Currently" what we are offering.
The interview was very easy, they did most of the talking, I just sat and listened. They gave me a couple of scenarios and asked what i would do... All common sense stuff.
I don't know if I got hired. They are waiting to interview everyone before they make any hiring decisions. I believe I did very well in the interview. We had a good rapport.
Last edited by dutch747; 12-04-2006 at 07:49 AM.
12-05-2006 | 11:43 AM
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