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Old 04-05-2006 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 727C47
Sky,Why are you here? Do you see your self as a lonely voice of truth (please get over yourself),or something?
In case you hadn't noticed I am not alone in my opinions. I suppose you guys would prefer to hear yourselves complement each others glories. Sorry.

I am here to enjoy a diversion and to pass on my opinions to others. Until recently this place was full of stuffed shirt airline captain egotists. Someone needed to be the contrarian.

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Old 04-05-2006 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 727C47
sarcasticpasti, take a chill pill, you may be in the wrong industry, before you start spewing chunks all over ALPA,and the unions in this country in general,do a little research,read "Flying the line",look at labor conditions nationwide before the trade unions were created out of dire necessity.The Delta pilots have the right to do what they think is right for their families,themselves,and their profession, you are not a Delta pilot,you have no right to judge them.If you have been reading the fine print in the DAL deliberations you will see that the cause of 99.9 percent of Deltas problems is,and was managerial incompetence.The pilots are always an easy target because of salaries,benefits,and lets face it out,and out envy. You yourself mount up in your cockpit everyday,you yourself are directly responsible for the health and well being of those who ride with you.What do you think that trust and confidence is worth? Do you think you are fairly compensated? The only way to ensure adequate and equitable compensation is the collective bargaining process,and yes,the strike is the nuke in the arsenal, the Delta men and ladies have the right to vote to walk if they deem managements actions as intolerable. You should know better than to panic, and swallow management propaganda hook,line,and sinker. God speed,I hope all works out for both the Delta pilots and for you,may you make it to the left seat of the Airbus,or Boeing you desire,cheers.
Amen to that!!!!!!
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Old 04-05-2006 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by calcapt
Delta pilots are on the front lines looking the enemy in the eye. They are in the unenviable position of defending not only their own career but those of us watching from the foxholes. It just so happens that their number came up in this "screw the employees" era and they have chosen to stand and fight unlike others. Anyone who accuses them of looking out for themselves has a shallow view of the situation. The fight going on at Delta will have a profound effect on all of our careers and we should all be a little more careful in criticising something that potentially may stop or reverse this ugly concessionary trend that has gained so much momentum. Step back and look at the big picture and this fight will gain more importance and hopefully more respect for their plight.

First of all Skyhigh, nobody gives a damn what you think. You just keep coming back for more and somehow think we gain from your miserable life - we don't. You have turned this forum into a personal little game of dream destruction and misery propagation. After 600 or 700 posts we get it OK. You must crawl in bed each night just glowing at how much worthless sh!t you spread. I thank God I don't have to be around you or work with you. I can assure you that you would never be in my cockpit more than once. Don't you get it when post after post after post after post tells you to get lost and get a life. How dense are you?
On behalf of the professional pilots on this forum I implore you AGAIN to go away. As of today I will no longer respond or acknowledge any post from this idiot. Any others care to join me?

Any aspiring pilot on this forum can do themselves a huge favor and completely disregard every single thing that is posted from Skyhigh. This is an industry that will survive and be made stronger from the struggles that are going on today. Stick with it and keep the faith.

These are just my opinions and not the words of God. If you can't exchange in intelligent debates then perhaps you should get out of the kitchen. I am not alone in my ideas. If you came here just to hear yourself talk then perhaps you should go back to the crew lounge. Seems like I have hit a nerve. Perhaps you would be happier putting your head back in the sand?

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Old 04-05-2006 | 06:26 PM
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Someone take the plate and please educate us all on how a legacy carrier is supposed to operate the same routes with the same equipment as a LCC and expect to get twice the pay for doing it? Pilots are on thing but it doesnt stop there. It is easy to forget about the FA's, cleaners, baggage handlers and mechanics. Just how is that imbalance supposed to continue? We are all here to learn something.

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Old 04-05-2006 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Someone take the plate and please educate us all on how a legacy carrier is supposed to operate the same routes with the same equipment as a LCC and expect to get twice the pay for doing it? Pilots are on thing but it doesnt stop there. It is easy to forget about the FA's, cleaners, baggage handlers and mechanics. Just how is that imbalance supposed to continue? We are all here to learn something.

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I guess someone forgot to tell Bloomingdales to fold up their tent, since they have higher costs (and quality) than WalMart. They deliver a product that a good portion of the public is willing to pay for.

It isn't always simply about low cost.
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Old 04-05-2006 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fireman0174
I guess someone forgot to tell Bloomingdales to fold up their tent, since they have higher costs (and quality) than WalMart. They deliver a product that a good portion of the public is willing to pay for.

It isn't always simply about low cost.

What ever you say chief, however I don't think that argument even comes close to holding water.

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Old 04-05-2006 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
Someone take the plate and please educate us all on how a legacy carrier is supposed to operate the same routes with the same equipment as a LCC and expect to get twice the pay for doing it? Pilots are on thing but it doesnt stop there. It is easy to forget about the FA's, cleaners, baggage handlers and mechanics. Just how is that imbalance supposed to continue? We are all here to learn something.

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It's been that way for years Sonny. Look at J-Blew. The are retreating with their tails between their legs and cancelling trans-cons, cutting back on orders, NYC-FLA market is retrenching ect... These "start-ups" shine for several years than start suffering the very same pains we do.

Nothing new here except for defending the trade. When times are good again what carrier will you want to work for? The Jet Blews or the Legacy's?
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Old 04-05-2006 | 07:58 PM
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With Sky as opposed to a lot of us there are two different world views, I remember when the sky was falling last time(early 90's,and no pun intended),there were a lot of Sky's around then predicting the doom of the industry , Sky is entitled to his opinion, this is an open forum, but he is not the Cassandra he thinks he is. Anyway, what do I know, I flew DC-3s,non-sched on demand for 10 years and loved it,I'm probably way to biased, I just love this profession,despite the present environment, and unlike a few on this forum,I do see a brighter tomorrow,for all of us, Cheers,and goodnight!
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Old 04-05-2006 | 08:00 PM
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Let me add however I am a staunch ALPA member,and a firm believer in the collective bargaining process.
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Old 04-05-2006 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
What ever you say chief, however I don't think that argument even comes close to holding water.

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I do. To be so simple minded as to think the whole world economy revolves around low cost (and yes your retorts sound as if you advocate low cost across the board) is, well, lets just say its good your now Mr. passive income.....MLM anyone?
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