What makes a carrier a Legacy
12-09-2008, 06:17 AM
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What makes a carrier a Legacy
Just checked out APC main site for the first time in a long time and notice that Alaska and Hawaiian are now considered to be Legacy carriers. Can anyone explain how they classify who is a Legacy and who is a Major?
12-09-2008, 06:21 AM
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If your CEO can beat the Legend of Zelda...LOL...man I don't know that is a good question? I think is determined by your revenue...I could be wrong.
12-09-2008, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Past V1
If your CEO can beat the Legend of Zelda...LOL...man I don't know that is a good question? I think is determined by your revenue...I could be wrong.
12-09-2008, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by APM145
A Legacy carrier is an Air Line that operated pre deregulation, 1978
I think the other pax categories are based on revenue.
12-09-2008, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by APM145
A Legacy carrier is an Air Line that operated pre deregulation, 1978
The last five years aside, legacy carriers have historically had "mature contracts" meaning that there had been decades worth of contract negotiations that in helped define industry standard. Because APC tracks pilot pay and benefits, the Legacy category was notable from a pilot contract perspective of comparing "mature" contracts.
Last edited by HSLD; 12-09-2008 at 07:55 AM.
12-09-2008, 08:04 AM
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A fact for you aviation nerds out there.
Hawaiian Airlines is the oldest certificated passenger and freight carrier in the US. Certificate #005 and #001 respectively. It began operations in 1929.
Hawaiian Airlines is the oldest certificated passenger and freight carrier in the US. Certificate #005 and #001 respectively. It began operations in 1929.
12-09-2008, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BoredwLife
A fact for you aviation nerds out there.
Hawaiian Airlines is the oldest certificated passenger and freight carrier in the US. Certificate #005 and #001 respectively. It began operations in 1929.
Hawaiian Airlines is the oldest certificated passenger and freight carrier in the US. Certificate #005 and #001 respectively. It began operations in 1929.
Will that be on the test?
12-09-2008, 12:24 PM
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If an airline has more people as retirees than they do as active workers, if they cannot keep paying medical benefits, if the latest A/C on their fleet was received in the 20th. century, all their heavy checks are done in China and management keeps saying that they need concessions because of the increase fuel costs (although fuel prices are dropping) then it is a legacy carrier
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