Well, they were writing F NWA and F DAL. It took me a week to figure out that the "F" was "Former"

 

No more so than "Super Premium Wide Body".

 

Lost triple digit millions last year.

We will keep what we make money on. We are not giving up on cargo, just focusing on under wing. We may in fact have a new home for the 744's. Time will tell on that one!

 

Thanks!

 

It's official...this post is close to fizzling out.

If DL is going to cut close to 10% capacity, on average how many aircraft/crews would that equal? If you simply take 10% of the combined NW/DL fleet, I think you come up with around 650 pilots (assuming 10 pilots per jet average).

If that scenario were to play out, it is possible a furlough could be in the horizon. However, I understand early retirement requests are being denied at NW. Can anyone speak to this?

Quite frankly, it doesn't seem 650 pilots is enough to warrant a furlough considering:

1. guys want to retire.
2. oil is cheap offsetting a weak economy.
3. DL doesn't want to give up/open up their existing markets. It recent days, DL has announced new service in some markets. Also, Southwest is talking about going into new markets. I don't think DL/NW wants to scale back. Consider Southwest flying MSP-MDW. Certainly the worlds largest airline doesn't want to invite competition.

So, I'm an optimist...but I don't see a reason to be negative yet folks.

 

I heard they weren't looking for buyouts anymore from the flight crews? I also saw something about voluntary's not being extended to the flight crews? Someone was refering to this and saying this was proof DAL wasn't as fat as some say.
So I guess the question is what is the situation? Are the pushing for voluntary leaves or early outs...are the RSV's sitting or being used quite a bit. If the airline is actually quite fat on pilots it could be bad.

Also one other thing that came into play for the last flowbacks was the same training agreement in the ALPA contract. I have looked but can't find it now. I am almost sure I read somewhere that all flowdowns are put under the same 12 month training lock as newhires. Another words if they take the flowdown they are here for 12 months? Anybody see anything about that?

I'm also going to look but there was something in there about the flowback not accruing longivity while at Compass UNLESS they are called back and Compass needs them to stay at which time they continue to accrue...actually on both lists at that point. Of course they are always holding there seniority at DAL....I need some sleep but I'll try to look at some of these. It sounds like there are some differences in our to languages in the contracts.

 

DAL is overstaffed, but not to the point where they feel they will trigger the flow.
FWIW, if the loads improve we could be quite short here this summer. It all depends on the next few months!

 

Keep in mind that a large percentage of that 10% is being cut at the regional level.

 

Rolling Thunder sounds a lot better than the F word to me too. Lets hope your predictions are correct ACL, I know they have been in the past...

 

Well it is what I have heard to date. The second that changes, I will forward it.