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Old 04-19-2006, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
MAG pilots who worked as CFI's do fine. To clarify, other regionals will hire any MAG FO, if a lateral move is your aspiration. However, there are people at Major airlines out there who resent the whole PFT concept and will not hire a PFT/ non-CFI applicant. Maybe you won't run into one of those guys on your interview board... as always, there are exceptions to the rule...do you feel lucky? AWA/USAir will not be hiring for a long time, and SWA is far from a sure thing for any applicant.

The MAPD crowd will probably tell you it ain't so, but that's just wishful thinking on their part. If you have any doubts, go over to the APC major airline forum and ask those boyz what they think about an MAPD graduate flying airliners...
This was part of a conversation in the Regionals forum. Does graduating from Mesa's training program qualify as a no-hire in your opinions? Is this really an issue come interview time?
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Well, I'm not likey to ever be in a position to influence hiring at a major airline. But if I was, MAPD, FSA direct track, and Gulfstream guys wouldn't get anywhere with me.

People that don't instruct for a while, or otherwise pay their dues, don't have any business in this career.
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It will be interesting to see what others say. de727ups has been known to be outspoken on the issue. This could get fun...

Shortbus, I agree with what you had to say on the other fourm regarding the opinions of our more experienced fourm members. Thanks for starting this thread. I'm sure it will turn into a hotly contested one pretty soon. I hope the lowtimers (like myself) stay out of this one and read rather than posting.
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Well, I'm not likey to ever be in a position to influence hiring at a major airline. But if I was, MAPD, FSA direct track, and Gulfstream guys wouldn't get anywhere with me.

People that don't instruct for a while, or otherwise pay their dues, don't have any business in this career.
What ever happened to: "airlines don't care where you got your hours as long as you have them?" Seems like everybody that has given me advice for an airline job has told me this.
 
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What ever happened to: "airlines don't care where you got your hours as long as you have them?" Seems like everybody that has given me advice for an airline job has told me this.
Airlines don't care. The experienced pilots who often are involved in the hiring process might care.
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Airlines don't care. The experienced pilots who often are involved in the hiring process might care.
I disagree that airlines don't care. Like any company they look for an employee with a depth of experience. HR suits may not be pilots, but they do know how to ferret out the credential, experience, and employ-ability. They know what the market will bare in terms of available experience, and these days that pool is DEEP. The interview Capt. is there to make sure guy has a clue about flying, and you are right they can veto someone who is clueless.

Can a guy who goes to one of the zero to hero PFT farms get a job - I guess it's a big maybe, just like the rest of us.
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Hey... as long as de727ups isn't on the hiring board, than anyone has a chance. Just don't ask him for any recommendations.
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I would venture that the majors are so far removed from the initial flight training world that they wouldn't even know what companies are PFT. Most of the crusty old timers who are on typical interview boards hired on in the 70's. They don't read Fight Training Magazine. All they care about is "whos kid are we hiring today?"

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I'm not going to do any fast track extra, like the RJ certification, or the Airline transition program. I personally look forward to being a CFI for a couple years, just sitting around the FBO, getting to fly the smaller, more fun airlplanes, being in a less stressful environment, and getting experience without having 55 passengers to worry about. I want to be very comfortable with ATC and dealing with situations before I set foot on any regional plane.
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I'm not going to do any fast track extra, like the RJ certification, or the Airline transition program. I personally look forward to being a CFI for a couple years, just sitting around the FBO, getting to fly the smaller, more fun airlplanes, being in a less stressful environment, and getting experience without having 55 passengers to worry about. I want to be very comfortable with ATC and dealing with situations before I set foot on any regional plane.
Yeah, it's just the one in the smaller plane that's trying to kill you that you need to worry about.

Seriously, being a CFI, like anything else, isn't a bad gig if you do the research. It doesn't hurt to know what you're getting yourself into either.
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