At this rate, the only jobs that will be left will be CEO jobs. The world needs ditch diggers too. Oh, wait, that's what the illegals are for.

 

Spoken like someone who has never taken the time to educate himself. Keep drinkin' that kool-aide the liberal media feeds you, your glass and theirs is clearly half empty. It's not everyday I get accused of hitting the books too hard...I'll take it as a compliment. In the mean time here are a few suggestions:
Number One
Number Two

 

Hey if you think the media is liberal then you really have no idea do you. I am not sure were you live but it must be the best place in the US because while you sit there and feed yourself BS about how great america is doing the rest of society is trying to figure out how to pay for their huge house payments, gasoline that has doubled in price in two years, and pay for medical insurance that has doubled in the last few years while the pay increases their job is suppost to give them to counter act this trend are non-exsistent. If you deny these facts you truly are not looking at the real picture of today. Well the good news is that eventually this sky rocketing deficit that this country countinues to carry will bankrupt all of us.

 

I have no use in arguing with someone who's tactics of debate has devolved to attacking their argument on the basis of who agrees with the facts of it. Would you immediately discard your opinion if you read somewhere that Hitler agreed with you?

I'm done with you.

 

I merely questioned the source of your believed facts like any sane person would have after realizing you cut and pasted them for some socialists website.

I think we've been done for awhile, so until next time...

 

Since you dispute the validity of Bernie Sanders' assertions, I went to the Bureau Of Labor Statistics and researched the average hourly earnings in the entire private sector from 1964-2005. Here is the data I found:



Since it is more or less an interactive function like Java, I will tell you how I compiled it so you can do the same. First, visit this weblink:

http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cesbtab4.htm

I then checkmarked the box for Constant (1982) Dollars so that the data wouldn't be affected by fluctuations in the Dollar, but would closely represent the buying power that an hour of labor actually has. This is tied to the CPI and I am sure you should be able to understand the relevance of that.

When you hit the "Retrieve Data" button, it will take you to a new servlet page with 1996-2006 data. I then changed the dates to start from 1964 and end at 2005. I also checked the box that says "Include Graphs (new)". Then I hit the GO button and that produced the new table.

As the BLS confirmed, average hourly earnings in the private sector were rising from 1964 to 1973, wherein they then took a turn and started falling.

It's still sad that you have to attack the source. After reading Bernie Sander's biography on that side, it would be no wonder that anyone who defends big business would not like the guy. His constituents, however, do. He was re-elected as an Independent seven times. Of course none of that seems relevant to you as he is just "some socialist".

Here's a tip for you: Next time you want to debunk any data that someone represents to be factual information, provide some counter-evidence instead of attacking your opponent or the sources of the data. Debating sources of data instead of the data itself only serves to reinforce the belief that facts are made true based upon who asserts them.

 

Nice to know info. Were screwed!

 

We have been screwed since regan was president in 1980. I am not a favor of either political party but it is interesting to note that the biggest gain in the last thirty years was during second term clinton.

 

Turns out you wern't through with me. I found your previous post very interesting to say the least as I had never seen the data graphed out before.

The up and downs of the graph are to be expected as the data is tied to the economy as a whole. Keep in mind that a horizontal line would be ideal, as a positively skewed line would be unrealistic. You probably already knew all that stuff, but just making sure we are on the same page.

I would encourage you to look at the last 15 years; you will find earnings have been on the rise. This is contrary to the morbid picture Mr. Sanders painted with his data.

Realize also that the data is not a picture of America as a whole. This is the footnote to the data:

Data relate to production workers in natural resources and mining and manufacturing, construction workers in construction, and nonsupervisory workers in the service-providing industries. These groups account for approximately four-fifths of the total employment on private nonfarm payrolls.

I addition, typically data such as this does not include the salaries of those in the service. I am unclear if this is the case or not.

You forgot to mention the part about him passing only one law and fifteen amendments in his eight terms in the House. He is an extremist that dosen't do anything.

I've enjoyed our banter, but I think we are going to have to agree to disagree. I hope you and the wife have an enjoyable time in Las Vegas. See ya around.