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Old 04-27-2006, 07:02 PM
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Thumbs up age 60 rule new twist!!

I spoke to a high ranking member of the JCAA (Jamaican civil aviation authority) today , and he says that since ICAO has now approved age 65, the FAA is going to agree to pilots with ICAO licences landing in the U.S. up to age 65. which means that U.S. pilots age 60+ need to increase thier pressure to remove this unfair law in thier own land (and interest), bottom line is that since i (for example) have a British ALTP it wont matter (to me) what the FAA says, because they wont have jurisdiction over me any more.

ps, maybe, its a "moot" (changed thanks 2 mike 734 lol) point because looks like i`ve got that A320 capt job that i wanted in India, yippeee.

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Old 04-28-2006, 05:13 AM
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Hey, there's an idea. We should make every pilot that turns 60 get their ICAO license. If they can get through all those written tests maybe they are still sharp enough to fly an airplane. Better yet, make them take the test every year past 60.
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that is sound idea packer backer, I would love to see the senile caps I have to fly with now try to even read the first chapter of any of those books
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Well, when that age 60 rule goes away the industry is doomed for five years as far as both majors hiring and upgrades/QOL advances. The airlines themselves may object as they will have more guys maxing out the payscale. This may most likely effect future contracts if it passes. Maybe the individual companies will offer an incentive to still retire at 60. Being a roadie for 25 plus years takes its toll on the body and the family. I realize that everyone has their own reasons to work or not work past 60 but for me I am/was looking forward to retiring "young" and doing something else that keeps me home more, teeing it up, etc. It's not like the age 60 rule just happened. Folks know it is there and should plan accordingly. It will be interesting to see how both sides argue this issue. I guess playing devils advocate I should say that with most companies going 401k it does not matter when you retire and 60 is still a possibility
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For those who think that pilots are overpaid (Skyhigh)The age 60 rule is precisely another reason why they deserve decent compensation.

Most people today in all walks of life will be damn lucky if they can retire at 65, yet alone 60. I still think that it's age discrimination though. If a pilot is in good physical shape and sharp on his skills, there is absolutely no reason why he should be grounded because of a birthday.
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For those who think that pilots are overpaid (Skyhigh)The age 60 rule is precisely another reason why they deserve decent compensation.

Most people today in all walks of life will be damn lucky if they can retire at 65, yet alone 60. I still think that it's age discrimination though. If a pilot is in good physical shape and sharp on his skills, there is absolutely no reason why he should be grounded because of a birthday.

There is age discrimination everywhere. Sometimes it is unfair and sometimes it is justified. I want to be an air traffic controller but I'm to old. Their retirement age is 56 and you have to put a 25 year career in. So if you don't get hired by 31, you are out. Do I think that is fair? No. But those are the rules. I really don't want a controller that is vectoring me for an approach into EWR suddenly having a heart attack while me and a CAL 777 are heading right for each other. The same goes for pilots. As somebody once said on here before, there are a lot of parts on airplanes that are time limited. Meaning we don't run those parts till failure. The same holds true for pilots.
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There is age discrimination everywhere. Sometimes it is unfair and sometimes it is justified. I want to be an air traffic controller but I'm to old. Their retirement age is 56 and you have to put a 25 year career in. So if you don't get hired by 31, you are out. Do I think that is fair? No. But those are the rules. I really don't want a controller that is vectoring me for an approach into EWR suddenly having a heart attack while me and a CAL 777 are heading right for each other. The same goes for pilots. As somebody once said on here before, there are a lot of parts on airplanes that are time limited. Meaning we don't run those parts till failure. The same holds true for pilots.
This is the biggest load of bullsh34 i`ve read so far on this issue, awhile ago there was "a rule" (your words) that people of different colour had to walk on the other side of the street, so as far as your concerned a rule is a rule and therefore must be for everbodys good !!!!! wow and they actually let you into the cockpit
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This is the biggest load of bullsh34 i`ve read so far on this issue, awhile ago there was "a rule" (your words) that people of different colour had to walk on the other side of the street, so as far as your concerned a rule is a rule and therefore must be for everbodys good !!!!! wow and they actually let you into the cockpit
Sorry I don't agree with you, Randal. But equating support for the age 60 rule to racism is the biggest load of bullsh34 I'VE EVER READ! I don't want my family flying on a plane with a pilot that is on the verge of death. Just like I don't want them on a plane that has both engines over TBO (even though they run just fine). Just like I don't want my kids being operated on by a doctor that has shakey hands. And if you are over 60, Randal, trust me, you aren't missed.
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Sorry I don't agree with you, Randal. But equating support for the age 60 rule to racism is the biggest load of bullsh34 I'VE EVER READ! I don't want my family flying on a plane with a pilot that is on the verge of death. Just like I don't want them on a plane that has both engines over TBO (even though they run just fine). Just like I don't want my kids being operated on by a doctor that has shakey hands. And if you are over 60, Randal, trust me, you aren't missed.
With your attitude i doubt that you are "missed" no matter what your age is but hey good luck----------(boy is he gonna need it)

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Randal whats the pay scale like over in India??
 
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