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NVSSSNAKE 01-30-2009 12:48 PM

What does the flight crew want?
 
If a new regional airline were to start up. What does the flight crew want as a QOL. Without a union. Remember this would be a start up. So don't say you want $80.00 ph. You will be flying turbo-props. Give me some good ideas, please.

RJ Pilot 01-30-2009 03:30 PM

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HSLD 01-30-2009 04:18 PM

You get what you pay for - offer poverty wages and QOL then expect a high turnover. You'll pay for it in recurring training costs, etc. Pay a decent wage and prepare to lead by example, and you might cultivate loyal employees who go the extra mile for the customers.

Start up or not, you need to cost realistic wages and QOL or you're really not raising the capital you need to succeed. You get what you pay for.

box-hauler 01-30-2009 04:34 PM

How many seats in the turbo prop?

You also have to look at your competition. Ameriflight will pay 40K for a captain of a metro. Based on this I would say captains make that starting off and keep QOL acceptable.

Also as previously posted, lead by example and do what you say. There are 100's of bad examples not to follow and just a few good ones. Remember the saying, "a company never got a union without deserving one"

Flyby1206 01-31-2009 08:41 AM

The last thing this industry needs is a new regional startup. Believe me, there is nothing you or I can think of that will be so innovative youll be able to start a great/profitable regional turboprop airline that will compete with the large regionals like Skywest, CHQ/RAH, Expressjet, or wholly owned regional carriers with serious financial backing to undercut your prices the moment you move into their territory. If you really want to own an airline buy up one of the small struggling carriers like CommutAir, Great Lakes, Gulfstream and go from there.

Green Banana 01-31-2009 10:07 AM

All you have to do is offer the exact same contract as any other carrier. Let the pilots vote on the airline contract they want to copy. You would then have nothing to complain about because you would not have the highest costs, and the pilots would have an industry leading contract.

IronWalt 02-01-2009 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by NVSSSNAKE (Post 548811)
Remember this would be a start up. So don't say you want $80.00 ph.

Why would they care if its a start up or not? 80 dollars per hour for working their A@@ off like you are going to do is well worth it.

NVSSSNAKE 02-02-2009 10:26 AM

Thank you for the info so far. There is a market out there for another regional. So far the pay is postion above GLA, CommutAir, Mesa and just under SKW. With a work week of 4 on 3 off, flying 19 to 30 passenger T-props.

daretoaviate 02-02-2009 10:44 AM

...and the name of the company is ?

aviatorhi 02-02-2009 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by NVSSSNAKE (Post 548811)
If a new regional airline were to start up. What does the flight crew want as a QOL. Without a union. Remember this would be a start up. So don't say you want $80.00 ph. You will be flying turbo-props. Give me some good ideas, please.

Why not? I get 30/hour flying 1900s at a non-union regional as an FO, CAs get 50. How many 1900 FOs make 40 grand a year?


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