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Old 01-30-2009, 12:48 PM
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If a new regional airline were to start up. What does the flight crew want as a QOL. Without a union. Remember this would be a start up. So don't say you want $80.00 ph. You will be flying turbo-props. Give me some good ideas, please.
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You get what you pay for - offer poverty wages and QOL then expect a high turnover. You'll pay for it in recurring training costs, etc. Pay a decent wage and prepare to lead by example, and you might cultivate loyal employees who go the extra mile for the customers.

Start up or not, you need to cost realistic wages and QOL or you're really not raising the capital you need to succeed. You get what you pay for.
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How many seats in the turbo prop?

You also have to look at your competition. Ameriflight will pay 40K for a captain of a metro. Based on this I would say captains make that starting off and keep QOL acceptable.

Also as previously posted, lead by example and do what you say. There are 100's of bad examples not to follow and just a few good ones. Remember the saying, "a company never got a union without deserving one"
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The last thing this industry needs is a new regional startup. Believe me, there is nothing you or I can think of that will be so innovative youll be able to start a great/profitable regional turboprop airline that will compete with the large regionals like Skywest, CHQ/RAH, Expressjet, or wholly owned regional carriers with serious financial backing to undercut your prices the moment you move into their territory. If you really want to own an airline buy up one of the small struggling carriers like CommutAir, Great Lakes, Gulfstream and go from there.
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All you have to do is offer the exact same contract as any other carrier. Let the pilots vote on the airline contract they want to copy. You would then have nothing to complain about because you would not have the highest costs, and the pilots would have an industry leading contract.
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Originally Posted by NVSSSNAKE View Post
Remember this would be a start up. So don't say you want $80.00 ph.
Why would they care if its a start up or not? 80 dollars per hour for working their A@@ off like you are going to do is well worth it.
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Thank you for the info so far. There is a market out there for another regional. So far the pay is postion above GLA, CommutAir, Mesa and just under SKW. With a work week of 4 on 3 off, flying 19 to 30 passenger T-props.
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...and the name of the company is ?
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Originally Posted by NVSSSNAKE View Post
If a new regional airline were to start up. What does the flight crew want as a QOL. Without a union. Remember this would be a start up. So don't say you want $80.00 ph. You will be flying turbo-props. Give me some good ideas, please.
Why not? I get 30/hour flying 1900s at a non-union regional as an FO, CAs get 50. How many 1900 FOs make 40 grand a year?

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Originally Posted by aviatorhi View Post
Why not? I get 30/hour flying 1900s at a non-union regional as an FO, CAs get 50. How many 1900 FOs make 40 grand a year on the 1900?
who do you work for as an F/O making 40K a year in a 1900. Let me know cause I got a resume I need to send.
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