Sully's 60 Minutes Interview
06-12-2021 | 12:13 PM
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06-12-2021 | 05:48 PM
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EXACTLY! The guys here with the straw man arguments...stating the obvious, that the water landing was a great event and we should give the crew credit; or that any criticism of Sully for not giving his crew more credit comes from jealousy...are just that...straw man arguments. I've rarely heard anyone criticize Sully for the landing, so how about skipping that?
Anyhow, I've been reading through this thread after seeing a more recent interview with Sully which popped up on youtube where someone mentions this forum. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Eb...-0k9ORRULKS5ov. As others have said, most Captains I know would never use the word "I" as much he Sully does in nearly every interview, and neither would I. Sure, he plays lip service on occasion to the contributions of his other crew members, but then goes right back to talking about himself. As someone pointed out, if Sully was such a great guy, he could simply refuse any interview without his co-pilot, which would be totally appropriate if he really felt his First Officer contributed. I wasn't impressed at all...he really seemed full of himself, and appears to only mention his copilot as a dutiful side note, then goes on to describe how well read he is, and even how he invented the term "Brace for impact". Yeah, he makes it sound like that was something he thought of, in the spur of the moment.
The attacks by some here on guys who are simply saying Sully should have given far more credit to his co-pilot are really a bit over the top. The cult-like worship of the guy is a little too much. Maybe the defense of Sully's self-centered behavior has to do with something else, like Sully's laughable endorsement of Biden last year? Just saying...
Anyhow, I've been reading through this thread after seeing a more recent interview with Sully which popped up on youtube where someone mentions this forum. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Eb...-0k9ORRULKS5ov. As others have said, most Captains I know would never use the word "I" as much he Sully does in nearly every interview, and neither would I. Sure, he plays lip service on occasion to the contributions of his other crew members, but then goes right back to talking about himself. As someone pointed out, if Sully was such a great guy, he could simply refuse any interview without his co-pilot, which would be totally appropriate if he really felt his First Officer contributed. I wasn't impressed at all...he really seemed full of himself, and appears to only mention his copilot as a dutiful side note, then goes on to describe how well read he is, and even how he invented the term "Brace for impact". Yeah, he makes it sound like that was something he thought of, in the spur of the moment.
The attacks by some here on guys who are simply saying Sully should have given far more credit to his co-pilot are really a bit over the top. The cult-like worship of the guy is a little too much. Maybe the defense of Sully's self-centered behavior has to do with something else, like Sully's laughable endorsement of Biden last year? Just saying...
06-12-2021 | 08:51 PM
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I've seen him speak and be interviewed many times and I always thought he consistently made a point that they did it as a crew.
I completely disagree with the above statement that he didn't share the credit.
I completely disagree with the above statement that he didn't share the credit.
06-13-2021 | 05:21 AM
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06-13-2021 | 08:04 PM
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I’ve been told sully went off script to what was taught for a dual engine failure or any emergency, which is running through the QRH. I guess he was messing around with attempting a bleed air start or whatever. A couple of items down the QRH list read “press TOGA” which supposedly would have given the crew enough power to actually climb.
Just to add, I’ve heard he was one of the most bid avoided Captain’s at his domicile, known for being disrespectful to fellow crew members while riding the jumpseat.
I don’t know if that’s all bs, who cares at this point, but I’m wondering if anyone has any insider knowledge to what I just referenced.
Thanks.
Just to add, I’ve heard he was one of the most bid avoided Captain’s at his domicile, known for being disrespectful to fellow crew members while riding the jumpseat.
I don’t know if that’s all bs, who cares at this point, but I’m wondering if anyone has any insider knowledge to what I just referenced.
Thanks.
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06-14-2021 | 04:16 AM
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I’ve been told sully went off script to what was taught for a dual engine failure or any emergency, which is running through the QRH. I guess he was messing around with attempting a bleed air start or whatever. A couple of items down the QRH list read “press TOGA” which supposedly would have given the crew enough power to actually climb.
Just to add, I’ve heard he was one of the most bid avoided Captain’s at his domicile, known for being disrespectful to fellow crew members while riding the jumpseat.
I don’t know if that’s all bs, who cares at this point, but I’m wondering if anyone has any insider knowledge to what I just referenced.
Thanks.
Just to add, I’ve heard he was one of the most bid avoided Captain’s at his domicile, known for being disrespectful to fellow crew members while riding the jumpseat.
I don’t know if that’s all bs, who cares at this point, but I’m wondering if anyone has any insider knowledge to what I just referenced.
Thanks.
Both of the engines were catastrophically damaged, they weren’t coming back PERIOD.
It takes about 3 minutes to completely read the dual engine flameout QRH if you include all the notes. 3 minutes they didn’t have.
Wether or not He was a butthead to fly with they did everything right given the time constraints they were working under on that day.
06-14-2021 | 04:36 AM
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Sully did go off script. It's because he knew the aircraft very well. For the record I have flown with him on several occasions. Starting the APU is on the second page of the Engine Out portion of the QRH. That dual flameout provision was / is for high altitude flame out. Sully was old school Airforce and had a lot committed to memory, even if it wasn't required.
The important thing about starting the APU out of sequence was not necessarily getting an airstart. It was keeping the computers on line and staying in Normal Law.
If you have seen the Tom Hanks movie, it is accurate to a T because they used flight and cockpit voice recorder data. The simulator scenes were flown by US Airways check-airmen.
In one scene in the cabin, the lights went out. That was the generators dropping off line. The engines were windmilling enough to give erratic power and hydraulics. Starting the APU guaranteed good computers and Alpha protection. Erratic power and hydraulics could have led to an Alternate Law situation where you lose Alpha Floor protection. With the APU on it also guaranteed blue hydraulics at full power, which supports normal flight controls.
Alpha Floor protection enabled Sully to hold full aft stick prior to impact and it allowed the aircraft to settle into the water without stalling. There is not a great deal of technique required, just keep the wings level and the aircraft will land at the slowest possible speed with a nose up attitude.
The movie also stated that the engines were producing power. What they were looking at was the auto start function. When the engines registered a failure on ECAM, placing the start switch in air start turned on ignition and introduces start fuel. The engines would accelerate however due to the damage the egt limits were hit and the sequence would start over again. The engines were so badly damaged they wouldn't run without over-temping.
The important thing about starting the APU out of sequence was not necessarily getting an airstart. It was keeping the computers on line and staying in Normal Law.
If you have seen the Tom Hanks movie, it is accurate to a T because they used flight and cockpit voice recorder data. The simulator scenes were flown by US Airways check-airmen.
In one scene in the cabin, the lights went out. That was the generators dropping off line. The engines were windmilling enough to give erratic power and hydraulics. Starting the APU guaranteed good computers and Alpha protection. Erratic power and hydraulics could have led to an Alternate Law situation where you lose Alpha Floor protection. With the APU on it also guaranteed blue hydraulics at full power, which supports normal flight controls.
Alpha Floor protection enabled Sully to hold full aft stick prior to impact and it allowed the aircraft to settle into the water without stalling. There is not a great deal of technique required, just keep the wings level and the aircraft will land at the slowest possible speed with a nose up attitude.
The movie also stated that the engines were producing power. What they were looking at was the auto start function. When the engines registered a failure on ECAM, placing the start switch in air start turned on ignition and introduces start fuel. The engines would accelerate however due to the damage the egt limits were hit and the sequence would start over again. The engines were so badly damaged they wouldn't run without over-temping.
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