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Ol' Sully is a class act !!

Think of the best quarterback of all times..... who were his linemen?

Jonas Salk invented a polio vaccine..... who drew the blood and did the testing?

Neil Armstrong was the first person to set food on the moon.... who invented the heat shield that kept him from burning up on re-entry? (I know this one, it was my father)

Who were the captains of the ferries that arrived in under three minutes to render aid?

The truth is most people want one "hero". Let the people have what they want. Get over it. Everyone who understands the operation of an airliner knows it was a CREW that made this flight a "successful failure."

It seems that most of the people who are complaining about the "I"ness of Captain Sullenburger are the same people who got "Participation Awards" for finishing in last place.

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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 555198)

88% of ditchings in commercial airliners have had zero fatalities. That number is the lowest given probability and when given a controlled ditching effort the number is even higher.

Interesting stats.. source?

Here is one source that only lists four ditchings.
Jet Airliner Ditching Events

another... Emergency landing

it says...

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The following figures show survival rates for passengers and crew:

*Tuninter Air, Flt. 1153, August 6, 2005, of the coast of Sicily, 39 occupants, 23 survivors, 59% survival rate
*Aeroflot Tupolev 124 ditching in Neva river, October, 1963, 52 occupants, 52 survivors, narrowly missed a tugboat which sped to plane, cast a line and towed it to shallow waters, where the occupants were deboarded onto tug. 100% survival rate
*ALM DC9, May 2, 1970, the Caribbean, 63 occupants, 40 survivors, 63% survival rate
*Ethiopian Air Lines 767, November 23, 1996, off the Comoros Islands, 175 occupants, 45 survivors, 26% survival rate
*Miami Air Lease Convair CV-340, December 4, 2004, Mall lake, Florida, 2 occupants, 2 survivors, 100% survival rate
*Northwest Orient Airlines Flt. 2, Boeing Stratocruiser, April 2, 1956, ditched in the 430 feet Puget Sound, 38 passengers, all survived the ditching but 5 could not recover the freezing waters, 87% survival rate.
*Pan Am Flt. 943 Boeing Stratocruiser "Sovereign of the Skies", October 16, 1956, in the Pacific between Honolulu and San Francisco, 30 passengers and crew, 30 survivors, 100% survival rate

Though not a passenger plane, still relevant - Columbian AF C 130 Hercules, October 1982, en route between the Azores and Bermuda stayed afloat for two days.

Until now, there has never been an instance of a passenger plane water ditching in which there have not been any survivors

Seems like the number vary widely. Seems too that the unplanned arrivals (Northeast in Pensacola and JAL in SFO) are not listed as ditching but possibly CFITs.

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Originally Posted by III Corps (Post 554965)

Reportedly the generators stayed on the line, the APU came up quickly and the airplane remained in NORMAL LAW for the entire flight. No stall...

I hadn't seen that yet. If true, they had some more magic available to them for their first ditching. Do you have a link to that report? Actually, the point was they could stall if in Alternat Law, not that they did.

If what you say is true then I'll assume they manually deployed the RAT just in case. Prudent move in a time compressed situation.

Lee

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Originally Posted by III Corps (Post 555330)

Interesting stats.. source?

Do an internet search for aircraft ditching statistics.

Does anyone know if the hangar they did the interview in was the same one the Air Midwest 1900 hit a couple of years ago where everyone died?

ironic.

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Originally Posted by 1800 RVR (Post 554671)

Initial impression:

Am I the only one that has a problem with him saying "I did this" and "I did that"? It was the whole crew that made for a sucessful outcome. I know he is the captain and all, but they ALL had jobs to do to make it down safely.

That was my impression too.

By the end of that segment, I was thinking, "gee what was the F/O doing during all this "I,I,I" stuff.............sitting on his hands and begging Sully to save him ?

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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 555381)

Do an internet search for aircraft ditching statistics.

I did and could not find the stats to support your post. That is why I asked for the source and it appears it isn't readily available. ???

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Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG (Post 555369)

No link. That info came to me via a friend on the investigation team. But yes, your point is valid. You CAN stall in ALTERNATE LAW.

I was told that both engines rolled back but did not flame out and did not respond to movement of the thrust levers.

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Originally Posted by the turtle (Post 555382)

Does anyone know if the hangar they did the interview in was the same one the Air Midwest 1900 hit a couple of years ago where everyone died?

ironic.

There is only one hangar complex in CLT.