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EmbraerFlyer 02-14-2009 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by de727ups (Post 559329)
I wouldn't recommend aviation to my kid, either, because the only reason he has an interest in flying is because he see's what a great job I have. That's the wrong way to look at it.

People should get into flying because they love flying. It can be a great career for those who can put up with the downside. Of course, it's easy to be critical of the career at the moment with the economy and age 65. Who knows what the future will bring.

Skyhigh, you even said that yourself.

Here's some good Skyhigh quotes from the past:

"No one can really say what will happen".... Skyhigh 5/20/08

"I have no issue with those of you who advance knowingly into this profession." Skyhigh 6/7/08

"I am not trying to stop a true believer from joining the ranks" Skyhigh 9/18/08

"I am not trying to criticize anyone. Just trying to get people to think about a few things." Skyhigh 12/26/08

and lastly, one of my favorites

"Everything that you need to know about flying can be gotten from watching a few King tapes." Skyhigh 12/02/2008

I wonder what Sully would think about that one......


Priceless.. That made my day

SkyHigh 02-14-2009 05:37 PM

You make me blush
 

Originally Posted by de727ups (Post 559329)
I wouldn't recommend aviation to my kid, either, because the only reason he has an interest in flying is because he see's what a great job I have. That's the wrong way to look at it.

People should get into flying because they love flying. It can be a great career for those who can put up with the downside. Of course, it's easy to be critical of the career at the moment with the economy and age 65. Who knows what the future will bring.

Skyhigh, you even said that yourself.

Here's some good Skyhigh quotes from the past:

"No one can really say what will happen".... Skyhigh 5/20/08

"I have no issue with those of you who advance knowingly into this profession." Skyhigh 6/7/08

"I am not trying to stop a true believer from joining the ranks" Skyhigh 9/18/08

"I am not trying to criticize anyone. Just trying to get people to think about a few things." Skyhigh 12/26/08

and lastly, one of my favorites

"Everything that you need to know about flying can be gotten from watching a few King tapes." Skyhigh 12/02/2008

I wonder what Sully would think about that one......

I don't get what you see in those garden variety quotes. I must have made some better ones that that. They don't even seem all that incriminating.

Skyhigh

de727ups 02-14-2009 05:45 PM

"I must have made some better ones that that. They don't even seem all that incriminating."

I wasn't trying to incriminate. I was trying to stay on topic. But, since you asked, I think this one is "better".

"I do think that airline pilots today are little more than programmable humans who conduct a flight by following a highly scripted and choreographed series of rote memorized procedures and actions. They are manual driven flow chart following automatons who carry out the direction and decisions of others. Dispatch, maintenance control, Boeing engineers and ATC run the show. The pilots are spring loaded to react to situations in a pre-determined manner and if they run off the script will contact others for further direction. The mantra is "Do not think just do". Follow the procedure. Thinking gets pilots into trouble"

Skyhigh 11/19/2008

Wonder who told Sully he couldn't make TEB and that the river was his only option?

TheSultanofScud 02-14-2009 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by de727ups (Post 559461)
"I must have made some better ones that that. They don't even seem all that incriminating."

I wasn't trying to incriminate. I was trying to stay on topic. But, since you asked, I think this one is "better".

"I do think that airline pilots today are little more than programmable humans who conduct a flight by following a highly scripted and choreographed series of rote memorized procedures and actions. They are manual driven flow chart following automatons who carry out the direction and decisions of others. Dispatch, maintenance control, Boeing engineers and ATC run the show. The pilots are spring loaded to react to situations in a pre-determined manner and if they run off the script will contact others for further direction. The mantra is "Do not think just do". Follow the procedure. Thinking gets pilots into trouble"

Skyhigh 11/19/2008

Wonder who told Sully he couldn't make TEB and that the river was his only option?

He wasn't programmed by Microsoft, I can tell you that much. I got the Blue Screen of Death when I tried to play around with the scenario in Flight sim.

Futureman 02-14-2009 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by de727ups (Post 559461)
"I must have made some better ones that that. They don't even seem all that incriminating."

I wasn't trying to incriminate. I was trying to stay on topic. But, since you asked, I think this one is "better".

"I do think that airline pilots today are little more than programmable humans who conduct a flight by following a highly scripted and choreographed series of rote memorized procedures and actions. They are manual driven flow chart following automatons who carry out the direction and decisions of others. Dispatch, maintenance control, Boeing engineers and ATC run the show. The pilots are spring loaded to react to situations in a pre-determined manner and if they run off the script will contact others for further direction. The mantra is "Do not think just do". Follow the procedure. Thinking gets pilots into trouble"

Skyhigh 11/19/2008

Wonder who told Sully he couldn't make TEB and that the river was his only option?

I think Sully's point is that too many pilots now are programmed.

hiredgun 02-14-2009 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob (Post 559413)
LMAO...

And that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to priceless/clueless Skyhigh lines. For someone running around handing out cyanide to anyone who even contemplates thinking about aviation he sure spends a lot of time around those actually doing it who didn't give up...

Real estate or assisted suicide suicide sales must not be going so well. :D

OBSONOK (Oktoberfest beer sprayed out nose onto keyboard)

Ok Sideshow's post wins "Best of Show". :D

Airhoss 02-14-2009 07:53 PM

I was a "bush" pilot for nearly 5 years. I used to fly a twin engined STOL turbo prop (CA-212 on skies) onto polar sea ice floes hundreds of miles off shore to resupply scientific and military research camps all winter long out of Deadhorse AK. In the summer I flew wheels and floats and also was a smoke jumper pilot for the AK smoke jumpers out of Fairbanks AK.

Does this mean that Skyhigh will be my internet buddy now and listen up from time to time? Apparently I've meet his criteriea for background experience.Or am I still just programed robot who flies by a "script" and has to ask for help if anything goes wrong?

I think not as he is the all knowing all seeing sage of aviation since he quit the industry after it treated him so poorly.

Yes Virgina you can put skies on a CASA

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...yn/Casa212.jpg

aileronjam 02-14-2009 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 559514)

I could care less about the petty little BS on this thread, but this is a sweet picture. That looks like a great experience. Thanks for sharing Hoss.

Airhoss 02-14-2009 08:44 PM

aileronjam

Looking back it was the most interesting flying that I ever did. It was kind of cold up there too!
:D

I've got some great shots up on the sea ice that I need to scan.

But back to the point. Sulley is right on in his assessment of the current state of the industry. While I agree with just about everything he had to say I'd just add that there are a heck of a lot of civilian trained pilots who have varied backgrounds with serious relevant experience. I am not knocking military training as it is fantastic only saying that I think the media is a making a bit much of it at this point.

727C47 02-15-2009 04:03 AM

i wouldnt trade my DC-3,and piston Convair time for all the tea in China !


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