Sullenberger Article
02-14-2009, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
I wouldn't recommend aviation to my kid, either, because the only reason he has an interest in flying is because he see's what a great job I have. That's the wrong way to look at it.
People should get into flying because they love flying. It can be a great career for those who can put up with the downside. Of course, it's easy to be critical of the career at the moment with the economy and age 65. Who knows what the future will bring.
Skyhigh, you even said that yourself.
Here's some good Skyhigh quotes from the past:
"No one can really say what will happen".... Skyhigh 5/20/08
"I have no issue with those of you who advance knowingly into this profession." Skyhigh 6/7/08
"I am not trying to stop a true believer from joining the ranks" Skyhigh 9/18/08
"I am not trying to criticize anyone. Just trying to get people to think about a few things." Skyhigh 12/26/08
and lastly, one of my favorites
"Everything that you need to know about flying can be gotten from watching a few King tapes." Skyhigh 12/02/2008
I wonder what Sully would think about that one......
People should get into flying because they love flying. It can be a great career for those who can put up with the downside. Of course, it's easy to be critical of the career at the moment with the economy and age 65. Who knows what the future will bring.
Skyhigh, you even said that yourself.
Here's some good Skyhigh quotes from the past:
"No one can really say what will happen".... Skyhigh 5/20/08
"I have no issue with those of you who advance knowingly into this profession." Skyhigh 6/7/08
"I am not trying to stop a true believer from joining the ranks" Skyhigh 9/18/08
"I am not trying to criticize anyone. Just trying to get people to think about a few things." Skyhigh 12/26/08
and lastly, one of my favorites
"Everything that you need to know about flying can be gotten from watching a few King tapes." Skyhigh 12/02/2008
I wonder what Sully would think about that one......
Priceless.. That made my day
02-14-2009, 05:37 PM
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You make me blush
Originally Posted by de727ups
I wouldn't recommend aviation to my kid, either, because the only reason he has an interest in flying is because he see's what a great job I have. That's the wrong way to look at it.
People should get into flying because they love flying. It can be a great career for those who can put up with the downside. Of course, it's easy to be critical of the career at the moment with the economy and age 65. Who knows what the future will bring.
Skyhigh, you even said that yourself.
Here's some good Skyhigh quotes from the past:
"No one can really say what will happen".... Skyhigh 5/20/08
"I have no issue with those of you who advance knowingly into this profession." Skyhigh 6/7/08
"I am not trying to stop a true believer from joining the ranks" Skyhigh 9/18/08
"I am not trying to criticize anyone. Just trying to get people to think about a few things." Skyhigh 12/26/08
and lastly, one of my favorites
"Everything that you need to know about flying can be gotten from watching a few King tapes." Skyhigh 12/02/2008
I wonder what Sully would think about that one......
People should get into flying because they love flying. It can be a great career for those who can put up with the downside. Of course, it's easy to be critical of the career at the moment with the economy and age 65. Who knows what the future will bring.
Skyhigh, you even said that yourself.
Here's some good Skyhigh quotes from the past:
"No one can really say what will happen".... Skyhigh 5/20/08
"I have no issue with those of you who advance knowingly into this profession." Skyhigh 6/7/08
"I am not trying to stop a true believer from joining the ranks" Skyhigh 9/18/08
"I am not trying to criticize anyone. Just trying to get people to think about a few things." Skyhigh 12/26/08
and lastly, one of my favorites
"Everything that you need to know about flying can be gotten from watching a few King tapes." Skyhigh 12/02/2008
I wonder what Sully would think about that one......
Skyhigh
02-14-2009, 05:45 PM
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"I must have made some better ones that that. They don't even seem all that incriminating."
I wasn't trying to incriminate. I was trying to stay on topic. But, since you asked, I think this one is "better".
"I do think that airline pilots today are little more than programmable humans who conduct a flight by following a highly scripted and choreographed series of rote memorized procedures and actions. They are manual driven flow chart following automatons who carry out the direction and decisions of others. Dispatch, maintenance control, Boeing engineers and ATC run the show. The pilots are spring loaded to react to situations in a pre-determined manner and if they run off the script will contact others for further direction. The mantra is "Do not think just do". Follow the procedure. Thinking gets pilots into trouble"
Skyhigh 11/19/2008
Wonder who told Sully he couldn't make TEB and that the river was his only option?
I wasn't trying to incriminate. I was trying to stay on topic. But, since you asked, I think this one is "better".
"I do think that airline pilots today are little more than programmable humans who conduct a flight by following a highly scripted and choreographed series of rote memorized procedures and actions. They are manual driven flow chart following automatons who carry out the direction and decisions of others. Dispatch, maintenance control, Boeing engineers and ATC run the show. The pilots are spring loaded to react to situations in a pre-determined manner and if they run off the script will contact others for further direction. The mantra is "Do not think just do". Follow the procedure. Thinking gets pilots into trouble"
Skyhigh 11/19/2008
Wonder who told Sully he couldn't make TEB and that the river was his only option?
02-14-2009, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
"I must have made some better ones that that. They don't even seem all that incriminating."
I wasn't trying to incriminate. I was trying to stay on topic. But, since you asked, I think this one is "better".
"I do think that airline pilots today are little more than programmable humans who conduct a flight by following a highly scripted and choreographed series of rote memorized procedures and actions. They are manual driven flow chart following automatons who carry out the direction and decisions of others. Dispatch, maintenance control, Boeing engineers and ATC run the show. The pilots are spring loaded to react to situations in a pre-determined manner and if they run off the script will contact others for further direction. The mantra is "Do not think just do". Follow the procedure. Thinking gets pilots into trouble"
Skyhigh 11/19/2008
Wonder who told Sully he couldn't make TEB and that the river was his only option?
I wasn't trying to incriminate. I was trying to stay on topic. But, since you asked, I think this one is "better".
"I do think that airline pilots today are little more than programmable humans who conduct a flight by following a highly scripted and choreographed series of rote memorized procedures and actions. They are manual driven flow chart following automatons who carry out the direction and decisions of others. Dispatch, maintenance control, Boeing engineers and ATC run the show. The pilots are spring loaded to react to situations in a pre-determined manner and if they run off the script will contact others for further direction. The mantra is "Do not think just do". Follow the procedure. Thinking gets pilots into trouble"
Skyhigh 11/19/2008
Wonder who told Sully he couldn't make TEB and that the river was his only option?
02-14-2009, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
"I must have made some better ones that that. They don't even seem all that incriminating."
I wasn't trying to incriminate. I was trying to stay on topic. But, since you asked, I think this one is "better".
"I do think that airline pilots today are little more than programmable humans who conduct a flight by following a highly scripted and choreographed series of rote memorized procedures and actions. They are manual driven flow chart following automatons who carry out the direction and decisions of others. Dispatch, maintenance control, Boeing engineers and ATC run the show. The pilots are spring loaded to react to situations in a pre-determined manner and if they run off the script will contact others for further direction. The mantra is "Do not think just do". Follow the procedure. Thinking gets pilots into trouble"
Skyhigh 11/19/2008
Wonder who told Sully he couldn't make TEB and that the river was his only option?
I wasn't trying to incriminate. I was trying to stay on topic. But, since you asked, I think this one is "better".
"I do think that airline pilots today are little more than programmable humans who conduct a flight by following a highly scripted and choreographed series of rote memorized procedures and actions. They are manual driven flow chart following automatons who carry out the direction and decisions of others. Dispatch, maintenance control, Boeing engineers and ATC run the show. The pilots are spring loaded to react to situations in a pre-determined manner and if they run off the script will contact others for further direction. The mantra is "Do not think just do". Follow the procedure. Thinking gets pilots into trouble"
Skyhigh 11/19/2008
Wonder who told Sully he couldn't make TEB and that the river was his only option?
02-14-2009, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
LMAO...
And that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to priceless/clueless Skyhigh lines. For someone running around handing out cyanide to anyone who even contemplates thinking about aviation he sure spends a lot of time around those actually doing it who didn't give up...
Real estate or assisted suicide suicide sales must not be going so well.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to priceless/clueless Skyhigh lines. For someone running around handing out cyanide to anyone who even contemplates thinking about aviation he sure spends a lot of time around those actually doing it who didn't give up...
Real estate or assisted suicide suicide sales must not be going so well.
Ok Sideshow's post wins "Best of Show".
02-14-2009, 07:53 PM
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I was a "bush" pilot for nearly 5 years. I used to fly a twin engined STOL turbo prop (CA-212 on skies) onto polar sea ice floes hundreds of miles off shore to resupply scientific and military research camps all winter long out of Deadhorse AK. In the summer I flew wheels and floats and also was a smoke jumper pilot for the AK smoke jumpers out of Fairbanks AK.
Does this mean that Skyhigh will be my internet buddy now and listen up from time to time? Apparently I've meet his criteriea for background experience.Or am I still just programed robot who flies by a "script" and has to ask for help if anything goes wrong?
I think not as he is the all knowing all seeing sage of aviation since he quit the industry after it treated him so poorly.
Yes Virgina you can put skies on a CASA
Does this mean that Skyhigh will be my internet buddy now and listen up from time to time? Apparently I've meet his criteriea for background experience.Or am I still just programed robot who flies by a "script" and has to ask for help if anything goes wrong?
I think not as he is the all knowing all seeing sage of aviation since he quit the industry after it treated him so poorly.
Yes Virgina you can put skies on a CASA
02-14-2009, 08:44 PM
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aileronjam
Looking back it was the most interesting flying that I ever did. It was kind of cold up there too!
I've got some great shots up on the sea ice that I need to scan.
But back to the point. Sulley is right on in his assessment of the current state of the industry. While I agree with just about everything he had to say I'd just add that there are a heck of a lot of civilian trained pilots who have varied backgrounds with serious relevant experience. I am not knocking military training as it is fantastic only saying that I think the media is a making a bit much of it at this point.
Looking back it was the most interesting flying that I ever did. It was kind of cold up there too!
I've got some great shots up on the sea ice that I need to scan.
But back to the point. Sulley is right on in his assessment of the current state of the industry. While I agree with just about everything he had to say I'd just add that there are a heck of a lot of civilian trained pilots who have varied backgrounds with serious relevant experience. I am not knocking military training as it is fantastic only saying that I think the media is a making a bit much of it at this point.
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