Pilots of 777 your thoughts?
03-26-2009 | 05:16 AM
#21
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Exactly. We generate revenue to a much greater extent than any other employee. We are the only ones with the ability to affect the profit, once the brakes are released, with the possible exception of Dispatch.
03-26-2009 | 07:30 AM
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The 777 is far and away the best passenger plane I've flown. Easy to fly, great back up systems and redundancy, and two cup holders per pilot. As to the trips, I was better rested with a month of Asia trips on the 777 than a month domestic on the FLUF. You can't beat getting paid to sleep.
Does that mean the common 777/787 type is a done deal?
Does that mean the common 777/787 type is a done deal?
03-26-2009 | 08:28 AM
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rightstuffpilot,
Sorry this group hijacked your thread and turned it into a pay whine. Back to your original question.
I just like to fly. I'm typed in the B-727, B-737, B-747, B-757-, B-767, and B-777. Hands down, I kike the 777 the best. Logically, ergonomically, and physically it's a joy to fly. Each airline profiles their 777 missions to suit their own proprietary marketing plans. You can argue all day about that. However, as far as just flying the machine goes, it's great.
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(BTW-also typed in a G-159 from another life. Great plane too.)
I just like to fly. I'm typed in the B-727, B-737, B-747, B-757-, B-767, and B-777. Hands down, I kike the 777 the best. Logically, ergonomically, and physically it's a joy to fly. Each airline profiles their 777 missions to suit their own proprietary marketing plans. You can argue all day about that. However, as far as just flying the machine goes, it's great.
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(BTW-also typed in a G-159 from another life. Great plane too.)
03-26-2009 | 09:31 AM
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The thing I like best about the triple is that the legs are always long enough that you can take a wild and lengthy tangent to the conversation, and still have time to come back to the original topic before landing.
The systems are automated, redundant, and in some cases transparent - but you can still turn all the gee-whiz off and fly it like a "normal" jet. It has plenty of power, a respectable mach cruise, and good fuel economy.
03-26-2009 | 10:30 AM
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Whale Boeing Dude!
Where is the sidestick??? A steering wheel/yoke in a modern airplane is a complete waste of space and defies ergonomics. Those that have flown both will back that up. I guess that's what you build when you get the oldest generation of pilots designing the newest generation of aircraft. And yes, the guys I fly with aren't exactly young, but they agree... sidestick!
Where is the sidestick??? A steering wheel/yoke in a modern airplane is a complete waste of space and defies ergonomics. Those that have flown both will back that up. I guess that's what you build when you get the oldest generation of pilots designing the newest generation of aircraft. And yes, the guys I fly with aren't exactly young, but they agree... sidestick!
03-26-2009 | 10:56 AM
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See above, we don't "generate" anything, only control it. And in the example I used for MX, if a bunch of mechanics called in sick the night before when an airplane may have do for a check and said check was not completed, AND a replacement aircraft was not found, then what? Seems as if the MX sided of the house had a pretty good say in revenue loss, even though they did nothing to "generate" it.
03-26-2009 | 11:52 AM
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The trips on only bad depending on what kind of trips and/or overnights you like. 16 hour legs give you great productivity and days off. Mumbi and Delhi are not great overnights, but most overnights are great like PEK or NRT.
The plane is great. Electronic checklists, electronic flight bags, CPDLC/ADS, the plane trims when you add flaps or lose an engine. It's fly-by-wire, so you only get the artificial feel in the cockpit, but that's fine. The systems management is great compared to older Boeings....The 777 is highly automated when it comes to systems. You don't do much. For example: an engine start problem. You don't do anything, if you're in autostart, which is the norm. The plane will shut it down or attempt restarts as needed. If you get a message on the EICAS, hit the checklist button and there's your checklist.
The plane is great. Electronic checklists, electronic flight bags, CPDLC/ADS, the plane trims when you add flaps or lose an engine. It's fly-by-wire, so you only get the artificial feel in the cockpit, but that's fine. The systems management is great compared to older Boeings....The 777 is highly automated when it comes to systems. You don't do much. For example: an engine start problem. You don't do anything, if you're in autostart, which is the norm. The plane will shut it down or attempt restarts as needed. If you get a message on the EICAS, hit the checklist button and there's your checklist.
Good luck on your report rightstuff
03-26-2009 | 12:48 PM
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The 777 has mousepads too, but who cares? Modern aircraft have modern equipment. No surprise to anyone. I have 5000 hours in Embraers and I'll take an old Boeing over a new Embraer anyday.
First the thread drifted into a pay thing, now it's drifting into a "mine's better than yours" thread.
First the thread drifted into a pay thing, now it's drifting into a "mine's better than yours" thread.
03-26-2009 | 01:01 PM
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Where is the sidestick??? A steering wheel/yoke in a modern airplane is a complete waste of space and defies ergonomics. Those that have flown both will back that up. I guess that's what you build when you get the oldest generation of pilots designing the newest generation of aircraft. And yes, the guys I fly with aren't exactly young, but they agree... sidestick!
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