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Old 05-12-2009 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
Turns out the Airline Pilot is number 19 out of 25 best paying jobs in America.
Kudos to all who is fighting a good fight to keep the pay up.

In Pictures: America's Best-Paying Jobs - Forbes.com

No. 19 Airline Pilots, Copilots and Flight Engineers
Average Annual Pay: $119,750

One-Year Change: +5.1%

Employees in Field: 77,090

The Job: Pilot and navigate the flight of multi-engine aircraft in regularly scheduled service for the transport of passengers and cargo.

of the 77,090 "in the field" only 9,000 are at or above that payscale...

The majority are under 85,000, and the largest segment is under 45,000. Starting pay varies from 18,500 to 35,000 depending on carrier.
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Old 05-13-2009 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Mason32
of the 77,090 "in the field" only 9,000 are at or above that payscale...

The majority are under 85,000, and the largest segment is under 45,000. Starting pay varies from 18,500 to 35,000 depending on carrier.
Where do you get your 9,000 number from? I think nearly half or more are above that. I also think they add UPS and FEDEX into the airline pilot group. And nearly both of those carriers' entire pilot group is above that.
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Old 05-13-2009 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
It is the average pay as of today.

The stubborn fact we all understand is that:
-the more pilots settle for substandard contracts and/or
-the more young pilots with shiny jet syndrome take jobs that pay less than part time dishwasher and/or
-the more LCC's and RJ operators grow and/or new ones pop up

the lower that average will be.


The more we sell out on scope for a better return on the higher end is more like it. Lee Moak said it himself...RJ's are good for mainline pilots, because of their low operating costs mainline pilots can get a bigger paycheck.
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Old 05-14-2009 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate
They must be looking at 10+ year legacy captain pay. They should have worst underpaid professions 1.) Regional Airline pilot 2.) Can Collector or vice versa.
Too bad it takes 17 years to make narrow body captain at AA.
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Old 05-14-2009 | 08:17 AM
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Just doing some math on paper I would say that number $115,000 is pretty accurate for all 121 pilots averaged together including the first year regional FO's making $20K. At delta alone, if you assume 2/3 of the group is junior, the average is about $125,000 a year for all pilots. If you take that number and add the 7,000 DCI pilots average salary into the mix it only drops to about $105,000. That means if every pilot in the Delta system made the same amount of money we would all get $105,000 a year including the first year regional FO's.

On a side note I have a good friend who is a NWA 747 captain, he has 7, yes 7 private airplanes of his own. Here at mesaba we have a couple FO's that are Homeless and live in their cars, I kid you not.
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Old 05-14-2009 | 08:55 AM
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I am sure that this figure is not just for W-2's. It also includes your 401K and 415 matches, as well as some nominal dollar about for other bennies. Include your medical that costs the company at a min of 10K a year per employee. That does not include your contribution to your medical. That is total compensation.

A Legacy FO who has been in the trade less than five years considering all of these bennies added in will come very close. A eight year guy holding a line will be near 130K+ with these added in. You really need to look at how the numbers were derived.
FWIW I can tell you that a regional manager of a major sales company makes less than this.
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Old 05-14-2009 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I am sure that this figure is not just for W-2's. It also includes your 401K and 415 matches, as well as some nominal dollar about for other bennies. Include your medical that costs the company at a min of 10K a year per employee. That does not include your contribution to your medical. That is total compensation.

A Legacy FO who has been in the trade less than five years considering all of these bennies added in will come very close. A eight year guy holding a line will be near 130K+ with these added in. You really need to look at how the numbers were derived.
FWIW I can tell you that a regional manager of a major sales company makes less than this.

Michael Scott of Dunder Mifflin?
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Old 05-14-2009 | 09:14 AM
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Exactly! .
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