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Old 05-24-2009, 06:42 AM   #11  
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Iím not familiar with CALís operations, but at our airline, when the tug is disconnected, we are en-route, thus the voyage begins.
It doesn't matter what the airline's definition of "voyage" is, it's how the Japanese define it, and my guess is when they are told that there was an apparent flu victim on board the aircraft and the crew was exposed, then the games begin.
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Old 05-24-2009, 07:40 AM   #12  
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As an aside to this story. The captain on his went to the Japaneses consulate in New York a few days after this occurred. He was basically told had the crew continued they was a strong probability the crew would have been put under quarantine in a local hotel for up to ten days.
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Old 05-24-2009, 08:06 AM   #13  
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Folks come on, its one of the 100 best places to work!

Change the thread title to read: CAL Management to All Crews: "Drop Dead!"
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Folks come on, its one of the 100 best places to work!
"Bid a month of reserve and see for yourself. Thank you Continental"
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Old 05-24-2009, 09:26 AM   #15  
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How can phone calls, in a technological up to date operation, not be recorded? In lieu of a recording, how can a call log be lost not completed, when it relates to issues as important as this.
Good question, but even if there are recordings and call logs, they are held by the company, not the pilot.

Ask the duty chief to have dispatch send you a printer message under his signature stating his position you are legal to go. Most likely he will re-consider. If not, you now have written proof of his argument.
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Old 05-24-2009, 09:48 AM   #16  
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As an aside to this thread - I've been using Google Voice for the past few months and it offers a feature that lets you record your outgoing or incoming calls via one touch from a cell phone. The recording is automatically transcribed to text (varying degrees of success there), and the recording can be published to the net in a few clicks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LipDc...layer_embedded

It's not open to the public yet, but would have been of use to the crew in this case. You can get in line for an account here:

https://services.google.com/fb/forms/googlevoiceinvite/
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As an aside to this thread - I've been using Google Voice for the past few months and it offers a feature that lets you record your outgoing or incoming calls via one touch from a cell phone. The recording is automatically transcribed to text (varying degrees of success there), and the recording can be published to the net in a few clicks.

YouTube - Google Voice - Call record

It's not open to the public yet, but would have been of use to the crew in this case. You can get in line for an account here:

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Does that run afoul of various state laws governing the recording of phone calls? Some states require both parties to know a conversation is being recorded, some only one.
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Does that run afoul of various state laws governing the recording of phone calls? Some states require both parties to know a conversation is being recorded, some only one.
When you press "4" to start recording, a voice is broadcast that says "call recording started" so that could satisfy the requirement.

"Can We Tape?"

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Skype has offered this service for several years without too much press.
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Sounds like Captain Stank needs to be made aware of this program:

Aviation Whistleblowers: Know Your Rights — Katz, Marshall & Banks, LLP
 
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I think Captain Stank's name is punishment enough.
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