CO777Driver

This is my first post,however, I have been reading on this forum for some time now. After, reading for some time now; I have came to the conclusion that skyhigh needs to give it up. His post are worthless and his attitude stinks. I have an idea for you SKYHIGH. Since, your not in aviation anymore; leave this forum. Believe me, you are not helping anyone with your post. Maybe you could start a forum for cabinet builders ( Or whatever your occupation) Don't you have anything else better to do than sit on this forum and b*tch about how aviation failed you. Go take your kids for a bike ride or play catch with them.

Uncle Bose

Contrary opinions are always helpful. What good would these boards be if the only advice given came from the very fortunate few? They simply do not represent the majority of the industry, and the majority of aspiring pilots will never reach their level.

HSLD

Welcome to the APC forums, we're glad you're here. However, asking people to leave to forum is my job

One thing I've noticed about the majority of users who disagree with Skyhigh is there isn't much follow-up dialog about the risks of starting into an aviation career. We all know it never is easy to "make it" to the top, although that's an understatement these days when considering the pursuit of a career in aviation.

I haven't read all 900+ posts, but Skyhigh's recurring theme that I read is one critical of the time/value/risk equation of spending a boat load of money to chase a job that may not pay for the cost of entry into the job market for whatever reason.

You may not like the message, and obviously don't care for the messenger, but as long as you don't personalize your objection you're more than welcome to participate here.

As Uncle Bose pointed out, contrary points of view make for good dialog and I think that there is plenty of productive dialog on this topic. I would disagree with your assertion that Skyhigh's posts don't help. For anyone thinking of pursuing, it's important to have full disclosure - the good, the bad, and the downright ugly. If they know all the facts, and still decide to go for it - then it should be encouragement all the way! Skyhigh doesn't offer that encouragement - that's true. But, it's disclosure that everyone looking to jump into the piloting profession should hear. Maybe we should consider it "tough love".

2dotslow

Would this request also apply to our forum's retired pilots, or other posters who are either not yet in the gig, or "not in aviation anymore?" Seems only fair, as some of the retirees seem to simply hang around to b*tch about scabs, diminished pensions, and the ubiquitous management losers...which definitely can be construed as a gripe about how "aviation failed" these unfortunates. Get rid of 'em all...what's good for the goose most assuredly must be good for the gander.

RedeyeAV8r

I suppose that should also apply to Corp Pilot's Mr 2 dots!

After all the Website is "Airline" Pilot Central.

Whats good 4 the goose................

Rama

At least he's not a "yes" man.

2dotslow

Cutting it a bit thin with the APC name, Mr Red. After all, there are forums for military, corporate, and even cargo. And, to think, here we are posting in the Major section...guess since we're still in aviation we are due some slack from the stricture of the Triple 7 dude/dudette's supplication to Skyhigh. Besides, it's too much fun. We are all humored by the politics of the union/management battles, ex-pats who fashion themselves as a 2006 version of Terry and the Pirates, apparently middle-aged divorcees who coyly string along anonymous internet Lotharios, and occasionally, even some good, hard information. I'll soon be 59, so I'll stick around for about another year.

SkyHigh

Thank you to all,

I value every post especially the opposition. I understand that I might be a blight to many peoples reality but my intentions are to provide an honest representation of the down side of aviation. I am sorry to have rained on the parade but a forum is a place to share ideas in an open venue.

SkyHigh

HSLD

The URL www.pilotcentral.com was taken otherwise we would have grabbed it (although the owners of that domain offer to sell it to us on a regular basis).

The "airline" moniker is a misnomer, it's all about "pilot's helping pilot's" no matter where we are in the career. As long as it's legal and civil, and at least tangentially related to aviation then it's fair game.

727C47

you guys take sky ,way too personal, lighten up ,this is still a democracy ,the last time i checked anyway...