11,700 hours for captain
06-04-2009 | 07:42 AM
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11,700 hours for captain
I noticed in the some of the articles about the Air France flight that the captain had about 11,700 and around 1500 in the A330. Is that number of total hours small for a captain flying transoceanic passenger flights? I don't know so that's why I'm asking. Just to prevent any confusion, I'm not trying to conclude the captain lacked appropriate experience either. I just saw that number and would have thought a captain would have had more total time considering about 750 hours a year are flown. Just wondering.
06-04-2009 | 07:46 AM
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Not at all. Some will have less some more at that point in their career.
Say he did fly 750 hours a year That is 15.6 years flying experience. Lets knock off say 1500 hours for time he had before getting hired at Air France that is still 13.6 years line experience at Air France. And that is assuming that he flew an average of 750 hours a year. Which is a bit high given vacation time sick leave training etc.
Say he did fly 750 hours a year That is 15.6 years flying experience. Lets knock off say 1500 hours for time he had before getting hired at Air France that is still 13.6 years line experience at Air France. And that is assuming that he flew an average of 750 hours a year. Which is a bit high given vacation time sick leave training etc.
06-04-2009 | 07:47 AM
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I noticed in the some of the articles about the Air France flight that the captain had about 11,700 and around 1500 in the A330. Is that number of total hours small for a captain flying transoceanic passenger flights? I don't know so that's why I'm asking. Just to prevent any confusion, I'm not trying to conclude the captain lacked appropriate experience either. I just saw that number and would have thought a captain would have had more total time considering about 750 hours a year are flown. Just wondering.
Experience was not this issue.
06-04-2009 | 07:50 AM
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I noticed in the some of the articles about the Air France flight that the captain had about 11,700 and around 1500 in the A330. Is that number of total hours small for a captain flying transoceanic passenger flights? I don't know so that's why I'm asking. Just to prevent any confusion, I'm not trying to conclude the captain lacked appropriate experience either. I just saw that number and would have thought a captain would have had more total time considering about 750 hours a year are flown. Just wondering.
06-04-2009 | 07:54 AM
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I noticed in the some of the articles about the Air France flight that the captain had about 11,700 and around 1500 in the A330. Is that number of total hours small for a captain flying transoceanic passenger flights? I don't know so that's why I'm asking. Just to prevent any confusion, I'm not trying to conclude the captain lacked appropriate experience either. I just saw that number and would have thought a captain would have had more total time considering about 750 hours a year are flown. Just wondering.
Make no mistake, his training was very indepth particularly when it comes to international ops and route climatology.
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06-04-2009 | 07:58 AM
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But, that does not preclude pilot error because even experienced pilots do make mistakes.
06-04-2009 | 08:52 AM
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I began with the assumption he started at Air France with somewhere around 3000 hours. If he had been hired in 1988 and averaged 750 hours, he would have logged close to 15,000 hours, 18,000 total. Of course, I don't know what the work rules for Air France are so that can have a big impact.
The number just sounded a bit low for a captain, but I was only wondering about the total number of hours, not how or if it related to the accident. Thanks for the information.
The number just sounded a bit low for a captain, but I was only wondering about the total number of hours, not how or if it related to the accident. Thanks for the information.
06-04-2009 | 10:22 AM
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I'd be willing to bet he was asleep (probably not anymore after the bumps started) or at least relaxing back in the back at the time of the accident.
I find it almost humorous the speculation that he had "low time" and that 11,000 hours whether or not that is total time is low....
I find it almost humorous the speculation that he had "low time" and that 11,000 hours whether or not that is total time is low....
06-04-2009 | 10:38 AM
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hiring / flight times are different in Europe vs the US
many pilots there get hired with a major (AF, BA,...) right after flight school and an "ab initio" program. I have met quite a few pilots there getting hired with a European carrier at 3/400 hrs..
the FAA vs JAA ATPL is a different ball game too but that's another debate
So if he got hired at 350 hrs and flew 65 hrs a month on average that s 15 years with 2 years on the A330
many pilots there get hired with a major (AF, BA,...) right after flight school and an "ab initio" program. I have met quite a few pilots there getting hired with a European carrier at 3/400 hrs..
the FAA vs JAA ATPL is a different ball game too but that's another debate
So if he got hired at 350 hrs and flew 65 hrs a month on average that s 15 years with 2 years on the A330
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