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Old 06-04-2006 | 07:26 AM
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Eagle has expanded, Skybolt; that's where most of the AA mainline, hub-and-spoke NB flying went. There were 200-400 AA pilots allowed to "Flowback" to Eagle RJ jobs, but that is a mere fraction compared to the flying that used to be mainline AA that is now Eagle RJ flying.

And again, not one AA pilot has been recalled.
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Old 06-04-2006 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by B757200ER
Eagle has expanded, Skybolt; that's where most of the AA mainline, hub-and-spoke NB flying went. There were 200-400 AA pilots allowed to "Flowback" to Eagle RJ jobs, but that is a mere fraction compared to the flying that used to be mainline AA that is now Eagle RJ flying.

And again, not one AA pilot has been recalled.

We're on the same page bro. I was just a little to flippant in my attempt to show the disingenous actions of AA management. Sorry bout dat!

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Old 06-04-2006 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by B757200ER
AA is the only company left that hasn't recalled a single pilot since 9-11, and they have the most on furlough-----by far (2,890).

They had plans to increase int'l (high-yield) flying this summer, but when they were told 300-400 pilots would have to be recalled to do this extra flying, AA decided instead to cancel these flights, return the revenue they had already collected and give that market share or profitability to their competitors.

Aren't they generous?
Interesting. I'm sure UA will enjoy snatching up those international routes. I hope they have the good sense to add more pilots. My personal experience has been that I never see a UA flight go out of SFO less than completely full, well except for maybe a red-eye.

It sounds like most of the majors are flying everyone to guarantee, is it different this summer than in years past?
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Old 06-04-2006 | 09:37 AM
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Hey skybolt, about the forgery in your sig...are you joking around with that or what? Just so you know, an authentic quote would have proper capitalization of the user name.

By the way, no one's jealous of aviation colleges. They are not selective. I nearly spat out my drink reading that, whoever said it.

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Old 06-04-2006 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Skygirl
It sounds like most of the majors are flying everyone to guarantee, is it different this summer than in years past?
I can't speak to "most" majors, but it is different this year at UAL. This is the first summer that a new Preferential Bidding System (PBS) has been online systemwide. So far, the system has not shown any ability to provide quality of life in a work schedule.

Quality of life is different things to different people, but I look at the scdules from a safety standpoint. A scheduling system that month over month has a pilot flying 95 hours with 10 days off per month sets the stage for chronic fatigue. It's OK though because UAL now has a draconian and punitive sick leave policy to deal with tired pilots when they call in sick.
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Old 06-04-2006 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Bose
Hey skybolt, about the forgery in your sig...are you joking around with that or what? Just so you know, an authentic quote would have proper capitalization of the user name.

By the way, no one's jealous of aviation colleges. They are not selective. I nearly spat out my drink reading that, whoever said it.

No forgery there Uncle Bose. If you care, you can search skyhighs posts and find it yourself. It came from one of his rants in a pilot pay thread. You know, one of the threads that was split by the mod and it still went over ten pages.

As for the way I posted the quote, I got the quote by using cut and paste from the search page. I then added it to my signature by using a standard forum quote that uses this format (except I'm going to use this symbol, { , instead of this, [ , to bracket the quote.

example {quote=skyhigh}followed by the quote, ended by this{/quote}

No forgery needed.

I include it because I intend to show that skyhigh has an agenda other than just helping kids avoid this industry. He appears to have genuine issues with airline pilots. I actually am beginning to feel sorry for the man.

skybolt

edit: Luckily, I've got a late show, so I did the work for ya Unc. Here's a link to skyhighs post

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/sh...&postcount=105

It's post #105 in the "how much should a pilot be payed, Part II" thread. Dated, 01-09-2006 at 8:17AM.

You're welcome

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Old 06-04-2006 | 11:50 AM
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Ah, I see. Must've missed that one. There are just so many...
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Old 06-04-2006 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by WatchThis!
This is the first summer that a new Preferential Bidding System (PBS) has been online systemwide. So far, the system has not shown any ability to provide quality of life in a work schedule.
The company's interest is NOT centered around Quality Of Life for you guys. It's a one-way street for them - they don't give a damn about QOL for the pilots. They want it to enable them to get more work out of you.

I was somewhat involved in the preferential bidding system test in the early to mid 80s. The company was only interested in it to work you more, nothing else, no matter what line of crap they gave us back then nor are giving you today.
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Old 06-05-2006 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by B757200ER
Aren't they generous?
The word "stubborn" comes to mind.
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Old 06-05-2006 | 01:44 PM
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How many folks are still on furlough at UAL?
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