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Short Bus Drive 07-13-2009 07:57 AM
Originally Posted by BZNpilot248 (Post 644012)
I'd say United 232 is an excellent example of when CRM did work - they brought a third guy up to work the throttles and help control the airplane - people still died but the situation turned out pretty good considering how dire their circumstances were.
Already had that one!!!;)

250 or point 65 07-13-2009 07:57 AM
Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 644060)
I'm sorry I couldn't resist..

exactly how much of their training does not take place on the ground?
Not sure about Amtrak, but if he worked for CTA, I'd say a lot!

I'm sorry, being from Chicago, I couldn't resist.

powrful1 07-13-2009 08:08 AM
The reason there are few examples of CRM when things go really bad, is CRM will usually prevent events getting to the tipping point of no recovery. Between CRM and note complying with hijackers these are the two biggest changes in prevent very bad things. (note: GPS is a close 3rd)

elcid88 07-13-2009 10:19 AM
I went the train route as well when I got furloughed from American. It was fun, and there are a lot of similarities between the railroads and aviation. Have fun. I know that's a tough school.

pilotgolfer 07-13-2009 10:26 AM
Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 644123)
Just have to do a safety presentation, so I decided to do it on CRM. Being that the only thing I know is aviation, I am going to tie it in with train operations.:o

Maybe you could use an example from a GPWS warning where it says, "TRAIN, TRAIN".

Short Bus Drive 07-13-2009 12:03 PM
Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 644203)
Maybe you could use an example from a GPWS warning where it says, "TRAIN, TRAIN".
"DON"T THINK, DON"T THINK!" :D

HSLD 07-13-2009 01:19 PM
Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 644203)
Maybe you could use an example from a GPWS warning where it says, "TRAIN, TRAIN".
That made my day! :D

Short Bus Drive 07-13-2009 02:51 PM
Originally Posted by elcid88 (Post 644199)
I went the train route as well when I got furloughed from American. It was fun, and there are a lot of similarities between the railroads and aviation. Have fun. I know that's a tough school.
Freight or pax? It IS tough. 12 weeks, and almost a quiz/test DAILY!!!
Why did you leave? Just curious.

B757200ER 07-13-2009 05:30 PM
Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive (Post 644123)
Just have to do a safety presentation, so I decided to do it on CRM. Being that the only thing I know is aviation, I am going to tie it in with train operations.:o
There are many similarities! We both offer safe, reliable on-time transportation to the public. And fatigue is one HUGE issue at railroads. I spoke with a few train engineers, and after hearing their schedules, I couldn't believe it. If you think our job is tough, try doing continuous 8-hr train shifts, with short rest periods, around the clock.

Railroads also set the standard in transport; why do you think we're under the Railway Labor Act? They started first. Lots of similarities.

neibert12 07-13-2009 07:37 PM
Good luck to you! If you know my old man's hobbies I'm sure he'll be extremely jealous of you!!!


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