I agree with you. But what happens when the US opens up to foriegn carriers (it will) and VA and Virgina-Atlantic and V Australia, etc start linking flights together? Then UAL either has to improve or die.

5 years ago friends of mine in the auto industry were saying GM was going down. Others said no way. Too big. Remember Bethlehem steel? Now look, GM in BK and if Obama didn't save them, there would be no more GM. Even still, Pontiac Gone; Saturn Gone; Oldsmobile Gone; Saab Gone; Hummer Gone ... (Okay sold in some cases) but the fact is that UAL is going to get hurt badly.

Sure VA pays less... NOW. But what happens down the road?

Anyway, I am not happy about the way the aviation business has gone. Why would I be, I get paid to fly and today I get paid less to fly. But at the end of the day the world is flattening out and we all need to lookk for the best future not the best past.

United isn't competing against VA with a 747. If that 747 costs more because it is going to Sydney then they should be charging enough to make a profit on that flight.

Even though a 747 might only fly once, what is the utilization of the 747 on a flight to Sydney vs. the domestic aircraft?

Comparing VA and United or any other carrier is completely valid. They both transport people from point A to point B via airplanes. Some airlines just have points M through ZZ. Some may have TV, internet or food but they all do the same thing. They get people to where they want to go with and airplane.

i imagine even non-union companies have a contract to sign. i believe jetblue pilots all have an individual contract. with their supposed pay raise, they got one in the mail, signed it, and sent it back in. now they are waiting for the company to actually start paying on it. . . (i think this is right).

and the point is that maybe VA will raise its pay eventually (whether there is a "contract" or not).

The only Grammer I know of used to play Frasier on television.

Could you have possibly meant grammar?

GP

Somebody beat you to it. No grammar police job for you.

How about moving this thread to 'Upstart' where it belongs? Virgin is not a major carrier.

How long does one have to be in business in order not to be considered an "upstart"? They just celebrated their second birthday.


The tread does say LCC....

He musta been at the donut shop.

Until they're "Too big to fail"...I would still consider them an upstart

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