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10-06-2009, 07:50 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by zoooropa
The scope battle(s) have been fought, and labor lost. When RAH prevailed in the YX codeshare grievance, the floodgates were officially opened. Domestic narrow-body flying is doomed and the elusive "legacy" pilot position is going to become even more sacred.
Or do we fight like hell, against insurmountable odds, to fix what is wrong? Even if we ultimately fail, at least we tried.
After all, did we as a nation just give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
10-06-2009, 07:55 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
My, we're a little on the negative side today, aren't we? I guess we all better just give up now, since it'll be just too hard to fix.
Or do we fight like hell, against insurmountable odds, to fix what is wrong? Even if we ultimately fail, at least we tried.
After all, did we as a nation just give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Or do we fight like hell, against insurmountable odds, to fix what is wrong? Even if we ultimately fail, at least we tried.
After all, did we as a nation just give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Uh the germans?????
10-06-2009, 08:01 AM
#13
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Originally Posted by syd111
Uh the germans?????
Where is the facepalm emoticon when you need it.
YouTube - Animal House: Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor
10-06-2009, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by syd111
Uh the germans?????
10-06-2009, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Where is the facepalm emoticon when you need it.
YouTube - Animal House: Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor
YouTube - Animal House: Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor
10-06-2009, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by zoooropa
<P>The scope battle(s) have been fought, and labor lost. When RAH prevailed in the YX codeshare grievance, the floodgates were officially opened. Domestic narrow-body flying is doomed and the elusive "legacy" pilot position is going to become even more sacred.
10-06-2009, 08:28 AM
#17
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
My, we're a little on the negative side today, aren't we? I guess we all better just give up now, since it'll be just too hard to fix.
Or do we fight like hell, against insurmountable odds, to fix what is wrong? Even if we ultimately fail, at least we tried.
After all, did we as a nation just give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Or do we fight like hell, against insurmountable odds, to fix what is wrong? Even if we ultimately fail, at least we tried.
After all, did we as a nation just give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Comparing beating down Hitler and the Axis with getting scope back. . . Feeling a little like Walter Mitty today?
10-06-2009, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznitobam
Forget it, he's rolling.
10-06-2009, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pilot124
Just like Midwest, poor mgmt, angry bitter crews, poor ticket sales, etc. Then of course, UA releasing scope for their own greedy self preservation has lead us to where we are today. But, lets just blame RAH it's easier. Rat, even my 7 & 8 year olds accept more responsiblity then you. On occasion, I do find them blaming everyone else instead of placing the blame where it belongs, but they are only 7 & 8. What's your excuse for acting like a child? You need help.
10-06-2009, 08:34 AM
#20
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I agree with this statement. The regionals will eventually be ALL narrow body flying. Captains will make max out at $85-100k/year with 12-13 days off per month while first officers will always make poverty wages. Our salaries will continue to have less buying power as inflation rises faster than our wages. There is no way to preserve scope other than an illegal massive walk-out (it will never happen). Midwest was a successful experiment for management. There is a reason US Airways is getting rid of its 190's. US Airways is going to try again at outsourcing 100 seat flying.
I will fight all the way. There is no reason for it except corporate greed. It is time to fix this industry. Step one is to get paid what we are worth, along with fixing scope. Step two which will happen with step one is to charge a realistic price for a ticket.
Yes, this means that some will lose their jobs, but the industry needs to be fixed. Airline execs are just doing this so they can push of the need to fix their horrible balance sheets a few more years. We are turning in to shell corporations that are designed to make no money.
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