The Delta "wind check"
10-12-2009, 07:26 PM
#91
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
You're kidding right? No speed donut? What was Boeing thinking??????
That's it, I'm staying on the Maddog until they're gone.
That's it, I'm staying on the Maddog until they're gone.
The 75/76 has the un-donut. It's a brick.
10-13-2009, 09:01 AM
#92
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Originally Posted by captjns
When asked about wind conditions, I respond who gives a rat's a$$... just land the plane and we'll discuss it on the ground.
After the plane is on the ground taxying in to the FBO I enjoy watching the smirk on the student's face. I ask him, well what about the wind? They say... "We don't need no stinken wind reports!"
After the plane is on the ground taxying in to the FBO I enjoy watching the smirk on the student's face. I ask him, well what about the wind? They say... "We don't need no stinken wind reports!"
Originally Posted by captjns
That is what I like to transcend to my students when conducting line training on the NG. Who give a rat’s a$$... just fly and land the damn jet, and we’ll talk about it on the ground. You know what??? I get the same smart a$$ smirk form the newbie in the right seat. It's a beautiful thing.
10-13-2009, 11:22 AM
#93
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
What kind of noobs you training in an NG that don't know how to figure out how to calculate a headwind/crosswind/tailwind component on their own? I guess you don't have any wind limitations on those NGs?
Good question...."transcendent" question.
Last edited by Gomerglideslope; 10-13-2009 at 11:23 AM. Reason: ............
10-13-2009, 12:04 PM
#94
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from Justdoinmyjob: Try this in a taildragger and you'll be discussing why you ground looped.
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from Justjoinmyjob: What kind of noobs you training in an NG that don't know how to figure out how to calculate a headwind/crosswind/tailwind component on their own?
from Justdoinmyjob: I guess you don't have any wind limitations on those NGs?
35 knots on dry runways and 30 knots on wet runways. These limitations are reduced for runway widths of less than 150 feet by 1 knot for each 3' of width.
10-13-2009, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Been doing it in the bush and back country off and on since the '70s... Not all of us conventional geared flyers have been privileged to fly out of airports with weather reporting systems. But tell you what... why don't you PM your mobile phone number so next time I'm in the hight country landing in an open field, I can call you on my sat phone for wind information and proper landing techniques to avoid those dreaded ground loops.
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Originally Posted by captjns
Our newbies have an average of 250 hours before the commencement of their line training. But headwind component additives are not the issue here... its flying the airplane after the additives for wind and ice, as appropriate, have been input into the CDU, and keeping the big picture in mind.
prior to airline flying.
10-13-2009, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Been doing it in the bush and back country off and on since the '70s... Not all of us conventional geared flyers have been privileged to fly out of airports with weather reporting systems. But tell you what... why don't you PM your mobile phone number so next time I'm in the hight country landing in an open field, I can call you on my sat phone for wind information and proper landing techniques to avoid those dreaded ground loops.
Our newbies have an average of 250 hours before the commencement of their line training. But headwind component additives are not the issue here... its flying the airplane after the additives for wind and ice, as appropriate, have been input into the CDU, and keeping the big picture in mind.
Don't know if it's Boeing specific, but our company observes crosswind limitations for our -800s, of which all are winglet equipped.
35 knots on dry runways and 30 knots on wet runways. These limitations are reduced for runway widths of less than 150 feet by 1 knot for each 3' of width.
.Our newbies have an average of 250 hours before the commencement of their line training. But headwind component additives are not the issue here... its flying the airplane after the additives for wind and ice, as appropriate, have been input into the CDU, and keeping the big picture in mind.
Don't know if it's Boeing specific, but our company observes crosswind limitations for our -800s, of which all are winglet equipped.
35 knots on dry runways and 30 knots on wet runways. These limitations are reduced for runway widths of less than 150 feet by 1 knot for each 3' of width.
10-13-2009, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Gomerglideslope
Good question...."transcendent" question.
10-13-2009, 06:17 PM
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Justdoinmyjob you gotta lose the tude dude... don't understand the hostility... just relating realities of flying in non-airport environs in the DH2, C-185, Huskies, Cubbies, Luscombs, Aeroncas, Scouts, Champs, Stearmans, Ag-Cats, Thrush Commanders, the good old Pawnee with a big PT-6. Any you know what Mr Job? The planes nor myself never cared where the winds were coming from. Oh I did land into the wind as best as I could. Used the usual cues, such as trees, smoke, ripples on the water.
Just as I did for the better part of 35 years, all I do is just fly my plane. You should try it... you may like it.
Just standby your phone so you can give me some pointers.
Just as I did for the better part of 35 years, all I do is just fly my plane. You should try it... you may like it.
Just standby your phone so you can give me some pointers.
Last edited by captjns; 10-13-2009 at 06:33 PM.
10-13-2009, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gomerglideslope
Now you are starting to frighten me....who do you fly for?
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10-13-2009, 07:09 PM
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No tude here dude, but based on what you got posted, sounds like you got enough for both of us. Like I said, GGTA. I'll leave the last word for you.
Originally Posted by captjns
Justdoinmyjob you gotta lose the tude dude... don't understand the hostility... just relating realities of flying in non-airport environs in the DH2, C-185, Huskies, Cubbies, Luscombs, Aeroncas, Scouts, Champs, Stearmans, Ag-Cats, Thrush Commanders, the good old Pawnee with a big PT-6. Any you know what Mr Job? The planes nor myself never cared where the winds were coming from. Oh I did land into the wind as best as I could. Used the usual cues, such as trees, smoke, ripples on the water.
Just as I did for the better part of 35 years, all I do is just fly my plane. You should try it... you may like it.
Just standby your phone so you can give me some pointers.
Just as I did for the better part of 35 years, all I do is just fly my plane. You should try it... you may like it.
Just standby your phone so you can give me some pointers.
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