Delta Guys - Why did you Let Compass Go?
#32
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#33
Sure would have been easier to not screw the pooch instead of trying to prove how big their johnsons are.
You guys sure do love that self fulfilling prophecy, don't you? Oh, and still waiting for you to man up on the latest and greatest thread.
Toodles.
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#35
Can't abide NAI
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
It isn't personal and I don't hold a grudge, but it is what it is. Slow, if you, or Alpha, were close to the bottom and saw the risk of your job being outsourced, or worse, being outsourced when management decides they want to merge leaving you on the curb, you would feel the same way about your representation. If we become Delta pilots at Compass, we'd prefer to be represented by our MEC.
You might be comfortable with your seniority, that this will never effect you. But our MEC represents us all and has a duty to not leave a handful of members out simply because they have issues that the MEC does not want to deal with. Remember, the NWA MEC created this thing BUT the Delta and Compass pilots will bear the brunt of the representational abandonment.
The Chair and the MEC do 90% of their jobs well. But they did screw this up. I'm over it, it is done and I support my MEC - but - the real risk to my job remains. We're out over the ocean without a raft. Hope you're right and the flight maintains altitude.
You might be comfortable with your seniority, that this will never effect you. But our MEC represents us all and has a duty to not leave a handful of members out simply because they have issues that the MEC does not want to deal with. Remember, the NWA MEC created this thing BUT the Delta and Compass pilots will bear the brunt of the representational abandonment.
The Chair and the MEC do 90% of their jobs well. But they did screw this up. I'm over it, it is done and I support my MEC - but - the real risk to my job remains. We're out over the ocean without a raft. Hope you're right and the flight maintains altitude.
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#37
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Back in 2007 there were still thousands of post 9-11 pilots still on furlough and/or pilots who were "stuck" in jobs waiting to get on with a "major" building time. My question is as a Compass pilot, why would I want to pay dues to a MEC that was commited to terminate my job? Like at every regional there are guys at the top of the list that like their seniority and don't want to move on. Reducing their flying hurts them. Obviously reducing regional flying should mean more jobs at the majors so it is good for most but not for all. My point is there are two sides to every story.
#38
Can't abide NAI
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Don't get your point. Our MEC has not done anything to "terminate" your job.
The reason why it would be better for you to have a seat at the table, than to be locked out, is pretty obvious isn't it?
One of the reasons that I wrote to my Reps asking them to keep Compass in and put you guys on the list is that Delta would be unrestrained in using your aircraft to their full potential including acquiring the more capable versions if they wanted to. I also cautioned them that guys like you would immediately challenge our scope restrictions.
IMHO it was better to be seated at the same table than to challenge one another for flying.
The reason why it would be better for you to have a seat at the table, than to be locked out, is pretty obvious isn't it?
One of the reasons that I wrote to my Reps asking them to keep Compass in and put you guys on the list is that Delta would be unrestrained in using your aircraft to their full potential including acquiring the more capable versions if they wanted to. I also cautioned them that guys like you would immediately challenge our scope restrictions.
IMHO it was better to be seated at the same table than to challenge one another for flying.
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 11-09-2009 at 08:37 AM.
#39
Don't get your point. Our MEC has not done anything to "terminate" your job.
The reason why it would be better for you to have a seat at the table, than to be locked out, is pretty obvious isn't it?
One of the reasons that I wrote to my Reps asking them to keep Compass in and put you guys on the list is that Delta would be unrestrained in using your aircraft to their full potential including acquiring the more capable versions if they wanted to. I also cautioned them that guys like you would immediately challenge our scope restrictions.
IMHO it was better to be seated at the same table than to challenge one another for flying.
The reason why it would be better for you to have a seat at the table, than to be locked out, is pretty obvious isn't it?
One of the reasons that I wrote to my Reps asking them to keep Compass in and put you guys on the list is that Delta would be unrestrained in using your aircraft to their full potential including acquiring the more capable versions if they wanted to. I also cautioned them that guys like you would immediately challenge our scope restrictions.
IMHO it was better to be seated at the same table than to challenge one another for flying.
#40
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From: B737 CA
Agreed. If we were at the table, at least if there was a decrease in our flying, it would mean more flying at the mainline, which would be good for us at Compass. Those that want to stay at a regional should know that their jobs are subject to the whims of mainline management .
I do think that mindset has a good chance of changing in the coming years, perhaps starting with the current elections.
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