AA pilots will sign a concessionary contract
04-21-2010 | 03:08 PM
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04-21-2010 | 04:44 PM
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ALPA Eagle and many of your brothers and sisters would like to take the 100 seat flying, which would put 1/3 of our guys on the street with the immediate parking of Super 80s... I can't imagine you wanting to give us anything more than preferential interviews for the FO positions.
ALPA Eagle is no different than APA. Each self serving, and protecting their own members... It will not change, and many have no desire to see it change.
Many including our own and dear beloved Beagle pilot routinely criticize APA, yet ALPA (and ALPA Eagle) acts no differently.
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ALPA Eagle is no different than APA. Each self serving, and protecting their own members... It will not change, and many have no desire to see it change.
Many including our own and dear beloved Beagle pilot routinely criticize APA, yet ALPA (and ALPA Eagle) acts no differently.
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For a corporation that just ****ed half a billion patunias out the window last quarter alone, the 'scortched earth/line in the sand' strategy isn't likely to either succeed or materialize.
Perhaps it's best to wait until AMR goes to town via PPBK and solves all their problems............sure looks like its inevitable, don't it ?
I mean, Arpey and the boys seem pretty bland about it in the interviews.......could it be something that's ultimately necessary ?
I think the APA might want to start thinking outside the box and become proactive instead of waiting around for fate to slip them a rusty musket.
04-21-2010 | 04:58 PM
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It seems to me that what we all saw with the UAW a few years ago is happening to labor in our business as well. We have effectively priced ourselves out of jobs, period. You can cry "management sucks" all you want but the fact of the matter is when you fly 65 hard hours a month, max, and your costs are much higher than the competition, things will get ugly. I wish we could all make the "glory days" wages but those days are long gone. How many quarters of red ink do AA folks need to see before they come to their senses.
04-21-2010 | 05:53 PM
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They didnt have the numbers (or didnt say) but were getting asked why their revenue in the pacific flying was lower than the ATA forecast. Blah blah JAL blah blah Japan/Asia differences
AMR Corp. Q1 2010 Earnings Call Transcript -- Seeking Alpha
AMR Corp. Q1 2010 Earnings Call Transcript -- Seeking Alpha
On Pacific, I would like to flesh out a little bit more color there. It was a little bit softer than I think I was looking for personally. The ATA data last night showed about 10.5% growth out of the Pacific. You reported about a 90 basis point decline. How is JAL or is it impacting that at all? I think we initially thought maybe there was some opportunity there for you to pick up some of the traffic that JAL would be losing as they are restructuring but is it actually having a negative impact in the sense some of their domestic restructuring is impacting a lot of the fees into Narita?
Gerard Arpey
I don’t think so. I think it is more a matter that if you look at our Pacific presence it is more heavily weighted to Japan as opposed to other Asia. If you dissect the results for the quarter what you will see is other Asia was a bit stronger than Japan in general. I think it is more of an entity mix question for us.
Hunter Keay - Stifel Nicolaus
There is really no relative impact from a fee perspective with JAL restructuring?
Gerard Arpey
No I don’t think so.
Gerard Arpey
I don’t think so. I think it is more a matter that if you look at our Pacific presence it is more heavily weighted to Japan as opposed to other Asia. If you dissect the results for the quarter what you will see is other Asia was a bit stronger than Japan in general. I think it is more of an entity mix question for us.
Hunter Keay - Stifel Nicolaus
There is really no relative impact from a fee perspective with JAL restructuring?
Gerard Arpey
No I don’t think so.
04-22-2010 | 06:18 AM
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04-22-2010 | 06:46 AM
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04-22-2010 | 06:48 AM
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The ALPA pilots I know said this is exactly why their union never made national seniority list. None of the mainline pilots wanted to risk losing seniority to another airline.
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