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flyinaway411

12-09-2009 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by captjns (Post 723789)

Is there anyone out there that can share first hand reliable, (and not hear say, or from the butcher next door) information as it relates to the pay, benefits, terms and conditions of the contract for this new venture?

seriously?!?!?! how does this help the industry?

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Originally Posted by DWN3GRN (Post 723794)

Not sure what the UA contract say but if your contract allows it, it will be done. Sad but true

doesn't make it right, and a stand should be taken.

AirWillie

12-09-2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 723491)

I'm curious how many people with an A330 or A320 type and 1000 hours in type are looking for work.

It says that the FAA applicants have to have the A330 type. The one's that don't but have A320 types have to have EU licenses. So unless there are people at Delta/US willing to leave their A330 spots or expats abroad willing to come back, this will probably be foreign staffed.

AirWillie

12-09-2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by flyinaway411 (Post 723762)

Exactly!!!

The problem is that it looks like UA pilots and AL pilots won't have say in it and with half the pay.

HSLD	12-09-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AirWillie (Post 723814)

The problem is that it looks like UA pilots and AL pilots won't have say in it and with half the pay.

The language that abrogated UAL pilot scope was negotiated by United during the 2003 bankrupcy contract. The new language allowed non-UAL pilots to operate flights in any new joint-venture between "STAR" partners.

FlightPod TV did their first episode on this issue, if you haven't seen it, check it out:

http://flightpod.tv/episodes/59%C2%A0

BTW, ALL of FlightPod's content is worth watching/listening. Add it to iTunes!

400Driver

12-09-2009 12:39 PM

This was my favorite part....

"including that no tattoos, body piercings or tongue rings are visible in the Aer Lingus Uniform. Tattoos may not be covered with adhesive bandages or by other methods, to render them not visible."

If this cancer is allowed to spread we shall all soon see it in "our" own backyards.

ryguy

12-09-2009 12:49 PM

Ok I got it now. I didn't know anything about a joint venture deal or the politics of this whole thing and no I don't live under a rock. I just don't know the internal politics of every airline in the world.

Here's some debate on the subject.

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/3...n-forever.html

Dicecal

12-09-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by captjns (Post 723550)

Cheaper labor and operating costs. Just like the US outsourcing labor to China and India. Now the US had become the new cheap place for labor.

Afterall... how many crews can you be talking about versus the bigger issue is UAL, DAL, AA, etal outsourcing flying to the regionals.

Pretty ignorant statement. If this gets off the ground, it could expand into other markets. Also a template for others to try.

SkiBum112

12-09-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ryguy (Post 723890)

The debate going on at pprune is about their pay package and the Ryanair beast. Nothing about Dulles or crewing it.

TonyWilliams

12-09-2009 02:58 PM

My non-US airline has hired FA's in New York, to be based there. Don't some US airlines have non-US FA's in Japan?

fireman0174

12-09-2009 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 723865)

The pilot group made their own bed. Now they have to sleep in it.

I have zero sympathy for them. :p

That's what weak and inept leadership will do for you.

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