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tortue 12-09-2009 05:36 PM

Would this be targeting B747/B77/767 operations out of KIAD that fly to Europe?

IronWalt 12-09-2009 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by fireman0174 (Post 723990)
That's what weak and inept leadership will do for you.

Sounds like you are talking about ALPA and its gaggle of self serving scum politicos who would sell out their own children if it suited their agenda.

flyinaway411 12-09-2009 07:03 PM

regardless of ALPA and their "agendas," there is no excuse for going to work for this operation. its detrimental to the profession to say the least!

Typhoonpilot 12-09-2009 10:05 PM

This is a press release from February, 2009:


United, Aer Lingus Pilots Sign Protocol Agreement

The United MEC and the Irish Air Line Pilots Association (IALPA), which represents the pilots of Aer Lingus Airlines, signed a protocol agreement on February 2 to protect the interests of pilots from both airlines, in light of the recently announced partnership between United and Aer Lingus. Last month, the two carriers announced a partnership that will allow both airlines to sell seats on a Washington, D.C.-to-Madrid route, using Aer Lingus aircraft not flown by either United or Aer Lingus pilots. The flights, operating under the current Aer Lingus certificate, are scheduled to begin in March 2010.
“It is imperative that we work together on both sides of the Atlantic to prevent the anti-labor aspects of this agreement from impacting pilots from our two airlines,” says Capt. Steve Wallach, the United MEC chairman. “This partnership between United and Aer Lingus will set a dangerous precedent regarding international air travel where pilots on both sides of the Atlantic will pay a steep price. We will explore every regulatory, legislative, and legal avenue to protect the rights and careers of our members.”
“We are very pleased to have entered into this protocol agreement with the United pilots, and we will be working with them to confront the challenges this partnership poses to both our pilot groups,” says Capt. Evan Cullen, IALPA president. “We look forward to working with our United colleagues to explore every option to end our respective company’s blatant disregard for and lack of loyalty to their pilots, as well as to their corporate identities.”





Typhoonpilot

cactusmike 12-09-2009 10:19 PM

What will be interesting is where the Captains are coming from. EI may have a few willing to go to this operation but that is taking a big chance unless they are on a leave of absence from EI to do so. And if current EI Captains take the job that sets a precedent for UAL pilots to go as well.

ryguy 12-09-2009 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by SkiBum112 (Post 723953)
The debate going on at pprune is about their pay package and the Ryanair beast. Nothing about Dulles or crewing it.

Yeah, saw that as I dug a little deeper. Still, it gives a little insight into the strife that is going on over there so I didn't edit the post.

ryguy 12-09-2009 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot (Post 724190)
This is a press release from February, 2009:


United, Aer Lingus Pilots Sign Protocol Agreement

The United MEC and the Irish Air Line Pilots Association (IALPA), which represents the pilots of Aer Lingus Airlines, signed a protocol agreement on February 2 to protect the interests of pilots from both airlines, in light of the recently announced partnership between United and Aer Lingus. Last month, the two carriers announced a partnership that will allow both airlines to sell seats on a Washington, D.C.-to-Madrid route, using Aer Lingus aircraft not flown by either United or Aer Lingus pilots. The flights, operating under the current Aer Lingus certificate, are scheduled to begin in March 2010.
“It is imperative that we work together on both sides of the Atlantic to prevent the anti-labor aspects of this agreement from impacting pilots from our two airlines,” says Capt. Steve Wallach, the United MEC chairman. “This partnership between United and Aer Lingus will set a dangerous precedent regarding international air travel where pilots on both sides of the Atlantic will pay a steep price. We will explore every regulatory, legislative, and legal avenue to protect the rights and careers of our members.”
“We are very pleased to have entered into this protocol agreement with the United pilots, and we will be working with them to confront the challenges this partnership poses to both our pilot groups,” says Capt. Evan Cullen, IALPA president. “We look forward to working with our United colleagues to explore every option to end our respective company’s blatant disregard for and lack of loyalty to their pilots, as well as to their corporate identities.”





Typhoonpilot

Thanks TP,

Great info.

FlyJSH 12-10-2009 01:03 AM

The saddest thing is most pilots have not heard of this yet it has been in the works for at least 9 months.

fireman0174 12-10-2009 01:27 AM


Originally Posted by IronWalt (Post 724093)
Sounds like you are talking about ALPA and its gaggle of self serving scum politicos who would sell out their own children if it suited their agenda.

Well, I certainly wouldn't use that description! :(

No, I'm referring to the MEC that was so afraid of the bankruptcy judge that they were willing to agree to something without looking at its long term potential and that is about to really bite their buns in a big way. The IAD-MAD segment is but the first of what I feel will be more.

Forrest Gump was right.

Iflyforcash 12-10-2009 02:54 AM

Let's not blame the Aer lingus or UAL groups, blame it on ALPA and our wonderful goverment for allowing this to happen, and remember some furlough UAL pilot work for GO jets.

I'm just saying.


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