UAL MEC Chairman's outgoing message
12-21-2009, 02:49 PM
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UAL MEC Chairman's outgoing message
12-21-2009, 03:10 PM
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Ok, I watched that. As a previous ALPA member of more than 13 years, I just have to say I don't understand. Anytime terrorism and days off are used in the same sentence I start feeling a sharp sense of ***... Then I hear rumors and genocide in the same sentence and I stop listening. I am a simple minded dingbat,granted, but let me just say this...***??
Happy Holidays.
YF
I guess it didn't like me saying WT and then the letter after E all together...
Happy Holidays.
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I guess it didn't like me saying WT and then the letter after E all together...
12-21-2009, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by HSLD
He is a flapping idiot....
12-21-2009, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by contrail67
He is a flapping idiot....
I hope the best for you guys at United. I've always wanted to work there, and once Tilton leaves, will still want to work there. I just don't see how this move was the best.
12-21-2009, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Airway
Really? Moreso than his replacement who helped negotiate a long, ridiculously concessionary contract?
I hope the best for you guys at United. I've always wanted to work there, and once Tilton leaves, will still want to work there. I just don't see how this move was the best.
I hope the best for you guys at United. I've always wanted to work there, and once Tilton leaves, will still want to work there. I just don't see how this move was the best.
12-22-2009, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by contrail67
Show me one thing he has done except b#tch.....
Really, I don’t think I could show you anything, you know it all. But, let’s spell it out...he stopped the bleeding. He got the best of the 2007 LOA without the concessions in spite of the “agreement at any cost” attitude of the negotiators he inherited. Of more significance and as his parting gift, he rid the union of those same negotiators.
You would be wise to listen to his farewell message again, for that matter anyone who is a trade unionist or wants to understand why this profession is in a downward spiral should listen very carefully to what he has said, it is well crafted. Whether you like the messenger or not, he is the prophet of our future.
The union is no stronger than its leadership, as Captain Wallach has said, the current bench is very thin. That’s your fault, keep electing politicos, personable good old boys, management want to be’s, or new age “let all get along” representatives and pay the price. But please, don’t complain that you are a victim
In your shortsighted quest for instant gratification, you threw out (by a single vote) one of the last competent labor leaders capable of leading us out of the quagmire. You let personality interfere with competency. The new leadership are wonderful people, great to go drink with, but they will never be able to rally the membership to with-draw our services. Short of that, we are doomed to the crumbs that the corporate elite will defecate.
Captain Wallach made one hopeful point in his message, at some future time the pilots will decide they have had enough, put aside the politics, develop a spine and unify for the common good. In my opinion it is too late for this contract, possibly contract 2017. But in any case, not before the current labor leader pretenders are removed, and not before the line pilots have suffered a great deal more...
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