Bucking Bar

Just wait until she's 7 to 8 months. She pees in the guest bath, then stops by the master bath, then goes again to hall bath, all while walking outside to get the mail.

We've found the answer to the Global water shortage. Let her drink a pint of water and she pees four and a half gallons. If this new directive is real, she needs to stay home.

Kilgore Trout

Why the hatred for the TSA? Yes, I've laughed at the jokes, the "Tub Stacking Association" was one of my favorites, but what alternative do you have?

I can guarantee that joe public was pretty glad when this stuff was put in place after 9/11. It replaced a rather spotty system of private contractors. I'm not enamored of some of the silly rules, or the long lines, and especially not fond of the FACT that in this case the terrorists succeeded in causing a huge expenditure for government funded airport security.

The fact is there is no alternative right now.
Most of the passengers (and crews) who moan the most about security precautions at airports would moan even louder if the current policies were replaced with the earlier "system".

What do you suggest, seriously?

Zoot Suit

[quote=Kilgore Trout;733182]Why the hatred for the TSA? Yes, I've laughed at the jokes, the "Tub Stacking Association" was one of my favorites, but what alternative do you have?

I can guarantee that joe public was pretty glad when this stuff was put in place after 9/11. It replaced a rather spotty system of private contractors. I'm not enamored of some of the silly rules, or the long lines, and especially not fond of the FACT that in this case the terrorists succeeded in causing a huge expenditure for government funded airport security.

The fact is there is no alternative right now.
Most of the passengers (and crews) who moan the most about security precautions at airports would moan even louder if the current policies were replaced with the earlier "system".

What do you suggest, seriously?[/quote]

I suggest they stop coming up with stupid responses like they just did. Absolutly, completly assinine. So if this moron had tried to blow himself up mid Atlantic you would be OK with their response of no blankets 5 hours before landing? No getting up 5 hours before landing? Whoever came up with this directive should be fired. Absolutly NO thought went into it.

So I can't have a blanket on my lap but I bet I can get on a plane wearing a burka. This guy had the stuff strapped to his body. So he tried to blow up the plane an hour out. WTH does the time have to do with anything?

What they should do to make flights safer is take away the nail clippers from the pilots so they can't hijack themselves(pretend there aren't any axe's in the cockpits).

Sorry, the TSA does NOT make me feel safer when I fly.

captnmajic

Agreed, but the frustration from most of us is that the system failed big time in allowing the passenger to ever board in the first place. Rather than fixing a failed system of "no liquids, gels, etc" more asinine bureaucracy is being put in place to cover for the governments' failures. It's the passengers who will ultimately pay the price.

Kilgore Trout

The TSA does not make me feel any safer when I fly either, but I have to think of it rather objectively. A low level, entry level security system basically designed to catch or DETER the low level terrorist. We all know that the threat can not be completely eliminated. A determined terrorist, freedom fighter, revolutionary, (whatever one's politics/ideology/location) WILL find a way to eventually carry out their objective. The objective- killing people in a spectacular news splashing way.

How to address this? Should we address it?
I do not know the answers to these questions. I do believe some system needs to be in place, primarily because a large US registered aircraft full of westerners (infidels) is such a nice juicy target. Which, as we've seen, can be used for other purposes.

Options
1. No security- not going to happen.
2. Lightened, but more strategic security- maybe, but how would that save money, maintain effectiveness, and preserve our "open society" in comparison to the current system?
3. Increased entry level (TSA) and strategic security (NSA, FBI, CIA, DOD)- Basically all passengers and crews civil liberities under peril, and would it, in the end, increase security?

Etc.
As far as whether I'd be for a five hour blanket or lav restriction if this guy had attempted his act five hours outside landing- No, of course not.

I do not know the answers, but I do believe the system, along with vigilant passengers, is a somewhat workable approach to an ever evolving threat.

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tim987

man i feel sorry for all the little kids who want to go to the toilet less than 1 hour before the plane lands. kids won't be able to hold their cartoon friends in their lap.
You can email the TSA and tell them what u think of the new rule requiring that all passengers remain seated 1 hour before the plane lands and have nothing in your lap:

https://contact.tsa.dhs.gov/DynaForm.aspx?FormID=10

golfandfly

This is another well thought out TSA policy. Ok, you can't get out of your seat with less than an hour to go. Like some others have said, what about the rest of the flight? It is ok to take out exposives 2 hours out? What about carryon under the seat? Can you get to that?

I have no idea what they are trying to get accomplished. Sometimes the TSA makes a policy to seem proactive. This just seems idiotic.

It goes back to profiling and tougher screening. What do these guys have in common? Middle Eastern or Muslim backgrounds. It is unfortunate to the millions of peaceful, law abiding people, but these are the people that need more intensive screening. I realize this is unfair to many and not a slam dunk (they may not look "Muslim" or maybe they changed their names), but it at least addresses a problem. Staying seated for the last hour doesn't do anything but annoy passengers.

TJohn

I agree with you but what about Daniel Patrick Boyd? It's a no-win situation. The only way to defeat this crap is to cut it off as it grows. Known extremists need to be "disappear." If you are caught on video on the corner of a NYC street passing out fliers touting Islamic law should rule the country and death to the infidels, then those guys need to disappear for good. The whole lot of them. Boyd needs to be tortured to a slow painful death.

IluvRNP

Isn't the problem the lack of security where this clown boarded?

European transit stations should be required to treat inbound third-world aircraft the same as a bus load of pax arriving at the airport.

The TSA knows this, but is using band aids because our government doesn't want to offend Nigeria.

So, I guess the next time one of these clowns will blow his device 2 hours before landing.