I'm starting this thread for anyone wanting to understand the current PWA, and use it to their advantage. Amazingly enough, not everything in it crystal clear. Lawyers love it, pilots not so much. Delta North pilots need help to become only as confused as South pilots, rtaher than way more confused. South pilots trying to offer tutoring might find out they're not exactly experts either...

I'll create a separate thread to discuss what our next PWA must look like.

 

Good start:
We could even get as crazy as having a separate section for each section of the PWA. Might keep a few guys busy.....

 

I don't think separate sections are required, but that brings up a great point... In the past, when we had contract discussions on the old DALPA forum, rarely was actual contract langauge used. We all argued about what we think it says. It would help if we actually talked about the facts.

One thing I like about having North guys (besides another set of eyes) trying to sift through this stuff, is that they will have to actually read the stuff. That will bring their level of expertise up, and force evryone to up their game in having a semi-intelligent discussion.

I like it when pilot know their contract.

 

Nice job Sink. Maybe this will help get the threads on topic.

 

Agreed, and I recommend everyone download a copy of the PWA every 30 days. It changes.
I have my PDF copy on my desk top to reference in our ongoing discussions.

 

Thanks. One can only hope. Individually, we're all pretty smart people. But put too many at once in a small cage, and you get nothing but a bunch of snarling and biting. Maybe this spaces out the discussions, and lets everyone debate what interests them the most. Rationally.

From the Merriam-Webster online:

Main Entry: dis·cus·sion
Pronunciation: \di-ˈskə-shən\
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 : consideration of a question in open and usually informal debate
2 : a formal treatment of a topic in speech or writing

Main Entry: 1de·bate
Pronunciation: \di-ˈbāt, dē-\
Function: noun
Date: 13th century
: a contention by words or arguments: as a : the formal discussion of a motion before a deliberative body according to the rules of parliamentary procedure b : a regulated discussion of a proposition between two matched sides

Main Entry: 1ra·tio·nal
Pronunciation: \ˈrash-nəl, ˈra-shə-nəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English racional, from Anglo-French racionel, from Latin rationalis, from ration-, ratio
Date: 14th century
1 a : having reason or understanding b : relating to, based on, or agreeable to reason : reasonable <a rational explanation> <rational behavior>

 

Well since this wasn't answered in the big thread, I will try it here, thanks for making this new thread.

I have a reserve question. I have been on it most of my short career at Delta, but what happened yesterday kinda shocked me. I was on an X day to finish January on the 30th and started Feb month on the 31st with an on call day. At 4 AM they called and told me I was on short call starting at 5. I was a little shocked thinking I was supposed to get 10 hrs notice before going on short call. I don't remember specifically checking my schedule after 7 pm, but I know I never acknowledged any SC. Also since I was on an X day, couldn't I have been drinking till midnight legally? Just wondering because nothing happened, I wasn't drinking, I didn't get called in for a flight, but just mad I was called at 4 am. Thanks in advance.

 

I'm trying to find it in 23.S, but I think it's your responsibility to check your sched after 1500 on your last X-day, and to be prepared to have a trip or SC as early as 0500. The key here is to do what ACL said: check right after 1500, and check again. The reason you check AGAIN is that your schedule will show the LAST time you checked in the corner, not the current time. You save that schedule, or print it.

Then you go have a beer.

 

Thanks for the link to the dictionary

Bucking Bar: Puts the "antic" in Pedantic.

 

PFrog,

From "When Scheduling Calls"

Required Schedule Checks
A reserve pilot must check his schedule and acknowledge a rotation,
short-call period, or rest period under two circumstances:
1. Last Non-fl y Day: On his last non-fl y day prior to an on-call day,
a reserve pilot must check his schedule between 1500 and 0200
base time. He may be required to report for a rotation or start short
call as early as 0500 base time or start rest as early as 0001 base
time, provided Crew Scheduling has placed the duty or rest on his
schedule prior to 1500,. If is no duty on his schedule prior to 1500,
then he simply becomes a long-call pilot at 0001"