Originally Posted by beer (Post 755823)

How bout a trip is worth what it is worth!!! Shouldn't matter if you hold a line or on reserve..

Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 755840)

I agree completely. There is no way two guys in one cockpit chould be paid a different amount of credit for the same trip.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 755842)

Agreed, but the senior guys aren't going to give up a nickel to see that happen.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 755842)

How about instant credits (or penalty fee) for Crew Scheduling and Crew Accommodation screw ups? When called out as a reserve to fly the remainder of a rotation 80% of the time my DH leg requires one or two phone calls. 100% of the time the transport from the airport to hotel takes at least two calls, and 40% of the time there is a problem with the hotel. Repeat on the back end of the trip.

Crew Scheduling uses the excuse that they assume pilots are going to deviate. Even to the point of assigning redonkulous DH legs they know no one could make (15 minute turns, < 1:30 to wheels up from the initial call, etc ...) Well, usually I fly the exact trip as scheduled and usually it takes a dozen phone calls and usually the weather is crap.

Well, since this is an acknowledged problem, why not attach a cost to it? Something to encourage CS and CA to actually perform their job.

If I no show for a trip, I don't get paid. There is an incentive for me to perform. Lets incentivize the Company to not leave us homeless in the rain during a rotation!

At least .25 pay, or $50 per call.
Agreed, but the senior guys aren't going to give up a nickel to see that happen.

Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 755815)

+1. I believe SC should be a choice that comes its' own risk and rewards. You should work less days when you get SC's. They should not count the same as a 12-hour call-out.

Speaking of LC, TWA had (I believe) 9 hours call-out during daytime hours, but 15 hours from evening until morning. That made it a true LC system, friendly to commuters.

As an aside, I don't know why we don't have a very small percentage of Reserves on Ready Reserve, for a given duration, at very high Credit. Maybe I only make that distinction because I'm based in New York, where noone can be promptly available to three airports. Maybe SC and "Ready Reserve" means the same thing in other domiciles?

But I think it wouldn't be difficult to design a comprehensive system where people get rewarded with more time off for being more avialable during SC, and even more time off for a form of Ready-Reserve.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 755895)

I do not know what the company response to Ready Reserve would be. WS go first. I rather sit at home a hr away than sit in the crew lounge for six hrs, but that is just me and I do not commute.

Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 755874)

Heyas guys,

My preferences:

Scope

Pay

And some tweaks:

Bought off a trip for OE. You should only be responsible for the trip you were on, and not a "free" reserve.

Some kind of ultra-long-call reserve. Maybe a 24 hour callout at a reduced reserve guarantee (68 vs 70 or something like that). We are moving into a time where I don't know how much movement we're going to have and will probably have quite a bit more commuters. It'd be nice to have a more doable system for commuting to reserve.

Maybe assign actual pay credit to a reserve day (where you're not flown), whether you fly or not, instead of a score. The AirTran guys got this via an arbitrated settlement some years ago, and it seems to work very well for them.

I wouldn't mind seeing another PCS cycle (One of my favorite parts of the current PWA)...say 4 vs 3. I've heard some good arguments about making it "real time", but there are good arguments against that. One thing is fo sure...it's a hell of a lot better than what we had at NWA (see, I can do it!).

Nu