FlyingViking

Since when is the METAR / TAF below, reason enough to cancel all flights for the entire day? I am not trying to be a hero here but just got a call telling me that ALL flights to JFK is cancelled for Feb 10, 2010., for a certain airline. Is this reason enough? Can an airline just do this? I don't know the answer so I am asking in good faith, it just seem unreasonable to me that the weather channel has this much influence. The ramp time rule has been discussed on another thread so please don't take that discussion up again here. I am simply wondering if there are some form of rules for when an airline can do this.

METAR:KJFK 100551Z 00000KT 2SM R04R/5500VP6000FT -SN BR BKN009 OVC041 00/M02 A2976 TAF:KJFK 100525Z 1006/1112 VRB06KT 1SM -SN BR OVC005
FM100800 07010KT 3/4SM -SN BR OVC005
FM101200 05015G25KT 1/2SM SNPL FG OVC003
FM101500 03018G30KT 1/2SM SN FG OVC003
FM102100 36022G32KT 1SM -SN BR OVC005
FM110200 34024G35KT 2SM -SN BR SCT007 BKN014
FM110600 33022G30KT P6SM SCT025 BKN060

contrails

This country's airspace and airports are so many decades behind where they need to be that, yes, I think that is reason enough to simply throw in the towel and cancel a whole day's worth. Why even waste the money.

The airlines should sue the FAA for being so inept and so behind the times.

A few weeks ago, a really windy nasty IFR day in JFK necessitated that LGA completely cease operations for a part of the afternoon. ILS 13L and 13R go overhead LGA airport and they had to be used because the visuals over CRI VOR were out of the question with the weather. What a mess.

deltabound

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USMCFLYR

What does the 'SNPL' mean above or was it a mistype for SNBL (Snow, Blowing)?

USMCFLYR

Swedish Blender

Snow and ice pellets

USMCFLYR

Ah...thanks. In the BFR book I am studying right now it says that ice pellets uses 'PE' as the acronym.


One other please
runway 04R RVR of 5500 ?variable?6000 ft?

USMCFLYR

Edit: Looked it up in the 'Everything....' book and it shows PL as 'ice pellets and it verifies that the V means 'Variability' but then goes on to say the second letter would show tendency of Up, Down, or No change. Still don't know what the 'P' means.

BA Pilot

I think the P6000FT means more than 6000ft. I guess 6000ft is the most the iRVR equipment can measure,
so 5500ft variable to greater than 6000ft.

Hope that helps ....

USMCFLYR

It does and I should have picked that up before since P6SM is a common term that I used daily. Thanks BA.

USMCFLYR

Lambourne

Just curious as to what you are currently flying? Are you an airline guy? Not intended to be flame bait. I see you are a former F-18, but did not see the current position.

Thanks
L

BLott4

They changed it a few years ago because the thought was that you could have Rain (RA) and Pellets (PE). Not a particularly nice combination of letters.