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Old 06-18-2010, 12:09 PM
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Any rumors floating around about the details of the new TA, specifically pay and scope?

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Old 06-18-2010, 12:23 PM
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So Far: 150% OT is gone, it now 100% OT.

200% JM still in but will be electronically limited and controlled.

4 days off still in.

Pay: From what is going around: Junior FO's (1 to 4 year) did not make out to good.

Senior FO's and Capt. did alright.

Latest rumor states that 3rd year FO at DOS+2 will be at $84.

Capt. signing bonus $3000 and $7000 for FO’s

These are rumors since no official info as been released.

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Signing bonus is bad stuff.
Cheap way for all these Airline Managers to avoid paying retro.

If we all continue this trend, there is no reason for our companies to finish a contract on time or in due process.
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Originally Posted by UPS1856 View Post
Signing bonus is bad stuff.
Cheap way for all these Airline Managers to avoid paying retro.

If we all continue this trend, there is no reason for our companies to finish a contract on time or in due process.
Agreed!!!!
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Originally Posted by Jedinight View Post

These are rumors since no official info as been released.

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And why do you think that is????

Another rumor: No info til Monday, to give the MEC/NEG committee time to "prepare to answer questions" I read that as "Spin"
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we are being told, it is due to the fact that the TA is being put into legal terms.

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Old 06-18-2010, 01:25 PM
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I hear big change to Bid Opt 3 and reserve rules.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedinight View Post
we are being told, it is due to the fact that the TA is being put into legal terms.

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How do you put a pay chart into legal terms? Only two sections needed to be TA'd, and rewritten. The men in charge said at the return to work meeting, it would be printed by Friday, distributed "by next week". PDF it and email it to me.
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I think this went sideways a long time ago, I started to get that "oh crap" feeling when one of the Delta guys we borrowed from national was complaining that somehow news leaked about the 0200 deadline being pushed back to 0500 by a flight attendant via facebook. He said they knew it was pushed back at 0200, but they wanted us to hang around until 0220-0230, and that is when they announced the push back to 0500. Why did they want us there that long? Can't answer that, but the term useful idiot came to mind, and I still feel like one.

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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod View Post
And why do you think that is????

Another rumor: No info til Monday, to give the MEC/NEG committee time to "prepare to answer questions" I read that as "Spin"
Give it a chance. You're already negative about it....
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