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Old 07-13-2010 | 05:15 AM
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I am for a flow with the provision that it provides a flow-down into the most senior Captain positions with our mainline longevity pay protections. Without this flow-down provision, the "flow" should be terminated.
1. The initial pay step for Northwest Airlines Flow Down pilots will be based on the lesser of:
a. Step 2 for Captains and Step 4 for First Officers, or
b. Accrued Northwest longevity.
Delta flows also continue to accrue longevity at Delta while furloughed.
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Old 07-13-2010 | 05:17 AM
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Correct, furlough, but not furlough bypass. They stop accruing longevity the second they bypass, but they still have rights to their seniority spot.
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Old 07-13-2010 | 06:41 PM
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Compass was not the only way to NWA.[/QUOTE]

For compass guys it was!
I was one of the first few classes and can verify the crap said to us, I guess I'm a sucker, but it was said by management and the NWA MEC. We were excluded from interviews at NWA because their HR told us "you've already gone thru the interview process and are considered NWA pilots". If you don't believe it call a former NW MEC Rep.
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Old 07-13-2010 | 10:32 PM
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Compass was not the only way to NWA.
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[ For compass guys it was!
I was one of the first few classes and can verify the crap said to us, I guess I'm a sucker, but it was said by management and the NWA MEC. We were excluded from interviews at NWA because their HR told us "you've already gone thru the interview process and are considered NWA pilots". If you don't believe it call a former NW MEC Rep.
Pilots love shiny jets, Sparky, and in the absence of shiny jets, they'll listen to anyone with a shiny jet. They love shiny jets. They're so thirsty for them they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand.
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Old 07-14-2010 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sandlapper223
Pilots love shiny jets, Sparky, and in the absence of shiny jets, they'll listen to anyone with a shiny jet. They love shiny jets. They're so thirsty for them they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand.
Really?

I'm kind of attached to the Diesel 9-osaur, & I don't know if you've looked at one lately......but they're not shiny.
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Old 07-14-2010 | 07:27 AM
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Annette Bening was shiny in that movie.


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Old 07-14-2010 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Annette Bening was shiny in that movie.



Yes she was. Nice call! Always thought she was sexy, even in American Beauty... she must have been 50+ in that movie.

+1 to Sparky.

I was also in the early classes at Compass. The hiring personal at NWA, specifically the HR personal, told me that the only way to NWA was through Compass. In fact when the inital cadre were hired at Compass, NWA did not have any plans to hire. Funny thing happend in the summer of 07' NWA pilots were not picking up open time like they had before, as a result many flights were being cancelled. Therefore, the need to hire in the summer of 07'

I had 3 friends at my former airline who were in my same shoes, wanting to fly at compass for the chance to be senior at a new airline then in 30 months slid to NWA (there was no sign of a pending merger with Delta at that time). Many things made NWA my first choice. Location of bases and the fact that NWA was scheduled to retire half it's pilots over the next 10 years really excited me.

Somehow my application stood out more than their's and i was fininishing up my E-170/190 type when NWA decided they needed some bodies in a hurry. The rest is history. Its a bizarre industry at best, completely unpredictable. Its more important than ever for solidarity in the ranks. I wish ALPA national did more to promote cohesivness.

On a second note, no one from Compass is prohibited from apply to Delta directly. This however was only a recent development and not sure why anyone senior at Compass would have applied if they were scheduled to flow anyway. Not like it's fun filling out airline apps.

Also some information came to light yesterday after the Delta ME'LEC meeting which will help clear things up in the near future. I imagine the MEC/LEC's will brief there pilots soon.

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Old 07-14-2010 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Vikz09
Yes she was. Nice call! Always thought she was sexy, even in American Beauty... she must have been 50+ in that movie.

+1 to Sparky.

I was also in the early classes at Compass. The hiring personal at NWA, specifically the HR personal, told me that the only way to NWA was through Compass. In fact when the inital cadre were hired at Compass, NWA did not have any plans to hire. Funny thing happend in the summer of 07' NWA pilots were not picking up open time like they had before, as a result many flights were being cancelled. Therefore, the need to hire in the summer of 07'

I had 3 friends at my former airline who were in my same shoes, wanting to fly at compass for the chance to be senior at a new airline then in 30 months slid to NWA (there was no sign of a pending merger with Delta at that time). Many things made NWA my first choice. Location of bases and the fact that NWA was scheduled to retire half it's pilots over the next 10 years really excited me.

Somehow my application stood out more than their's and i was fininishing up my E-170/190 type when NWA decided they needed some bodies in a hurry. The rest is history. Its a bizarre industry at best, completely unpredictable. Its more important than ever for solidarity in the ranks. I wish ALPA national did more to promote cohesivness.

On a second note, no one from Compass is prohibited from apply to Delta directly. This however was only a recent development and not sure why anyone senior at Compass would have applied if they were scheduled to flow anyway. Not like it's fun filling out airline apps.

Also some information came to light yesterday after the Delta ME'LEC meeting which will help clear things up in the near future. I imagine the MEC/LEC's will brief there pilots soon.
So what came to light in the meeting yesterday?
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Old 07-14-2010 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by EmbraerFlyer
So what came to light in the meeting yesterday?

I think its best if you contact your reps as i am not a offical LEC rep. Until offical word comes from the Delta MEC/LEC and passed through our Compass MEC, i do not want to post anything until the MEC's let the pilot ranks know first hand.
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Old 07-14-2010 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Vikz09
I think its best if you contact your reps as i am not a offical LEC rep. Until offical word comes from the Delta MEC/LEC and passed through our Compass MEC, i do not want to post anything until the MEC's let the pilot ranks know first hand.
That is great advice.
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