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Old 07-21-2010 | 11:32 AM
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looks like im going to have to start multiplying everything by 2 in my log book from now on.
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Old 07-21-2010 | 11:36 AM
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You are gonna get better candidates out of this. If it takes 1500 hours to reach an airline cockpit many people will just go do something else, thats a fact, and you can compare similar legislation to other careers and you would get the same result. Just like age 65, this will have a major affect over time.
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Old 07-21-2010 | 11:41 AM
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You are gonna get better candidates out of this. If it takes 1500 hours to reach an airline cockpit many people will just go do something else, thats a fact, and you can compare similar legislation to other careers and you would get the same result. Just like age 65, this will have a major affect over time.
All age 65 did, was back everyone up... 5 years (if that).
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Old 07-21-2010 | 12:19 PM
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I don't think this will change the industry much at all. In the early 90's you needed 1500 hours or more to even get an interview. This did not result in a pilot shortage at all. This will not increase wages because there will still be a large number of people who will still take the crappy wages that the 250hr wonder was taking a few years ago. It will also have no impact on safety because even with the 250 hour wonder, planes have not exactly been falling out of the sky. I think this is more of an "illusion of safety" than a really sound solution.

I still believe if you don't qualify for an ATP you shouldn't be in an airline cockpit. Period
Could not agree more.
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Old 07-21-2010 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Pielut
I don't think this will change the industry much at all. In the early 90's you needed 1500 hours or more to even get an interview. This did not result in a pilot shortage at all. This will not increase wages because there will still be a large number of people who will still take the crappy wages that the 250hr wonder was taking a few years ago. It will also have no impact on safety because even with the 250 hour wonder, planes have not exactly been falling out of the sky. I think this is more of an "illusion of safety" than a really sound solution.



Could not agree more.
yes but look at what happened recently....airlines couldn't find enough pilots, hence that is how we got into this pickle.
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Old 07-21-2010 | 12:35 PM
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I think in the early 90's, the average pilot pay in real terms was much higher than it is now and the total number of pilots on furlough was way less.
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Old 07-21-2010 | 12:37 PM
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Irony defined.
Brilliant post sinkR8.
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Old 07-21-2010 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
All age 65 did, was back everyone up... 5 years (if that).
Exactly, my point is that these law changes affect the industry whether people want to believe it or not. I feel 1500 hours will slightly counter the affect of age 65.

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I don't think this will change the industry much at all. In the early 90's you needed 1500 hours or more to even get an interview. This did not result in a pilot shortage at all. This will not increase wages because there will still be a large number of people who will still take the crappy wages that the 250hr wonder was taking a few years ago. It will also have no impact on safety because even with the 250 hour wonder, planes have not exactly been falling out of the sky. I think this is more of an "illusion of safety" than a really sound solution.



Could not agree more.
Can you imagine if 1500 hours was a requirement back in 06? They would have been hard pressed to find pilots with 1500 hours, hell they were hard pressed to find pilots with 500 hours.
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Old 07-21-2010 | 12:40 PM
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About time!
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Old 07-21-2010 | 12:40 PM
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yes but look at what happened recently....airlines couldn't find enough pilots, hence that is how we got into this pickle
True, but right now with the glut of unemployed pilots there would have to be a serious increase in hiring for the the pool to truly get that depleted. Also this was fueled by the explosive growth of regional carriers, I don't think there is going to be another increase in that sector of that magnitude again. (At least we better hope not!!) Yes there will be many retirements out in the future but there are fewer mainline jobs for regional pilots to move on to. Unfortunately the the pyramid has been flipped and everyone will not move on to a major carrier.
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