500 hour Comm. Pilot versus Multi Crew Pilot
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500 hour Comm. Pilot versus Multi Crew Pilot
I humbly propose this question: While just about everyone on this board champions this law because it should increase pilot pay (and to a certain extent, safety), many people have said they fear it will give rise to multi-crew licenses. Which do you think would be worse: 500 hour wonders sitting right seat of a 50 seater, or the implementation of multi-crew licenses?
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I humbly propose this question: While just about everyone on this board champions this law because it should increase pilot pay (and to a certain extent, safety), many people have said they fear it will give rise to multi-crew licenses. Which do you think would be worse: 500 hour wonders sitting right seat of a 50 seater, or the implementation of multi-crew licenses?
No problem with the MPL license as long as those who get that as their only license are never in a command position.
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I think they should have allowed 60 - 65 year old pilots assume the new position of cruise pilot in three man cockpits. Since the lawmakers didn't do that maybe they can help out the old guys again and allow them to be cruise pilots after 65. No disrespect intended but I've now flown multiple trips with 60+ Captains and most of them have made simple mistakes that I would not expect from a 500 hour wonder. (Intending to land on the wrong runway, not recognizing or understanding a pressurization problem, not being able to interpret a TCAS RA display correctly, falling stone cold dead snoring asleep,...)
They do however add a tremendous amount of experience to the cockpit that could be a valuable resource during an emergency. Putting them in them jumpseat for T/off and landing is the safest avenue. When things start happening fast, a small mistake can turn grave.
OK, I've got my bulletproof vest on now that this thread has been hijacked. Let me have it with both barrels. I'll read your comments after my next trip.
They do however add a tremendous amount of experience to the cockpit that could be a valuable resource during an emergency. Putting them in them jumpseat for T/off and landing is the safest avenue. When things start happening fast, a small mistake can turn grave.
OK, I've got my bulletproof vest on now that this thread has been hijacked. Let me have it with both barrels. I'll read your comments after my next trip.
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I humbly propose this question: While just about everyone on this board champions this law because it should increase pilot pay (and to a certain extent, safety), many people have said they fear it will give rise to multi-crew licenses. Which do you think would be worse: 500 hour wonders sitting right seat of a 50 seater, or the implementation of multi-crew licenses?
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I humbly propose this question: While just about everyone on this board champions this law because it should increase pilot pay (and to a certain extent, safety), many people have said they fear it will give rise to multi-crew licenses. Which do you think would be worse: 500 hour wonders sitting right seat of a 50 seater, or the implementation of multi-crew licenses?
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I think they should have allowed 60 - 65 year old pilots assume the new position of cruise pilot in three man cockpits. Since the lawmakers didn't do that maybe they can help out the old guys again and allow them to be cruise pilots after 65. No disrespect intended but I've now flown multiple trips with 60+ Captains and most of them have made simple mistakes that I would not expect from a 500 hour wonder. (Intending to land on the wrong runway, not recognizing or understanding a pressurization problem, not being able to interpret a TCAS RA display correctly, falling stone cold dead snoring asleep,...)
They do however add a tremendous amount of experience to the cockpit that could be a valuable resource during an emergency. Putting them in them jumpseat for T/off and landing is the safest avenue. When things start happening fast, a small mistake can turn grave.
OK, I've got my bulletproof vest on now that this thread has been hijacked. Let me have it with both barrels. I'll read your comments after my next trip.
They do however add a tremendous amount of experience to the cockpit that could be a valuable resource during an emergency. Putting them in them jumpseat for T/off and landing is the safest avenue. When things start happening fast, a small mistake can turn grave.
OK, I've got my bulletproof vest on now that this thread has been hijacked. Let me have it with both barrels. I'll read your comments after my next trip.
Dude,
I don't think you will take much heat for the above - I doubt any pilot over 60 has figured out this new-fangled interweb yet. In any case, you won't get a response until the "early-bird" dinner specials are over.
Scoop
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Thanks, Scoop...I needed a good chuckle!!
Very funny!
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In return I humbly suggest that all crewmembers on the flight deck of a 121 carrier hold an ATP licensce no exceptions.
I don't think you will take much heat for the above - I doubt any pilot over 60 has figured out this new-fangled interweb yet. In any case, you won't get a response until the "early-bird" dinner specials are over.
Last edited by TonyWilliams; 08-16-2010 at 05:47 AM. Reason: fixed quote
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Exactly!
Okay, all joking aside, 60 really is not that old. My neighbors dad is an over 60 pilot, was an F-4 pilot and still runs three miles every morning. Lot of complete disrespect on these threads to alot of guys who are military veterans. They changed the law, yes it SUUUCKS, but that is no reason to be disrespectful.
Okay, all joking aside, 60 really is not that old. My neighbors dad is an over 60 pilot, was an F-4 pilot and still runs three miles every morning. Lot of complete disrespect on these threads to alot of guys who are military veterans. They changed the law, yes it SUUUCKS, but that is no reason to be disrespectful.
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