I can be an "avowed" anything on an anonymous internet forum. The only thing that truly matters is my vote behind closed doors.

I find it oddly coincidental that Carl is so adamant about "scope" when he is at the top of the profession. Could it be that a large number of forum users on here are junior? What is Carl's daily interaction with "junior" guys? It certainly is not from going across the pond in his whale.

Negotiations are all about priorities and compromise. NO TWO people can have the same...........

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

Every situation CAN be worse, but what has ALPA/DALPA done to protect our scope lately?

747 freighters outsourced to JV/codeshare partners.

Alaska growing, adding routes, using our gates, flying DAL hub to DAL hub.

Line in the sand, 76 seats mainline-"feel" jets outsourced. RAH flies narrowbodies. Slot swap 92% RJ.

Things can be worse - yes. BUT, there is no fight in DALPA / ALPA for our jobs and our scope. Is it possible that DPA cannot do worse?

OUR JOBS! Scope affects everyone on the seniority list.

 

This tells me much more about your character than what you're driving at regarding Carl. Your inability to believe that a senior dude could not be concerned about the next generation of ALPA members is sad indeed. You are in a hole your last few posts, I suggest you stop digging.

 

Gotta love this latest example of "communications" from the DALPA boyz. For the record, here's the post in which I referred to a portion of Rather B Fishin's post as "indiscernible blather":

For anyone who might be interested, you can scroll back to the posts in question and see for yourself. What does it say about someone's case when their only hope to persuade is to completely misquote you?

Carl

 

I'm only "smart" enough because I was educated by the old guys when I was a new guy back in the 70's. They told me over and over again that Scope was Section 1 for a reason.

I've only got 4 years left, so my backward movement due to outsourcing won't hurt me as bad as somebody with many years left. My motivation is to pass on what I've learned over a 33 year career, and hope that the next generation can restore our once great profession. That will never happen unless the next generation knows what the most important things are to prioritize.

Carl

 

I agree. I think Carl is very sincere even though he can be a pain in the a$$ at times!

 

Carl,

I wasn't a misquote. It was a play on words.

I guess I'll respectfully disagree with the perspective in here. I'll leave ya'll to the originally scheduled ALPA sucks, Carl cheerleading party.

Safe flights.

 

Oh, a play on words...I get it now. Let me try:

That was fun!

Safe flights to you too.

Carl

 

Are you guys off your meds? In what world have you seen 747 captains with 9 years to retirement age (not 4, right Carl?) plotting and scheming, and expanding 6,000 posts to make certain us young pups don't make the same mistakes that he made WRT scope?

You guys think Carl is actually selling Scope? Carl is selling DPA. I don't know why, but I know that EVERY senior Captain I've ever worked with is fully engaged in an agenda that fits their demographic and position. There's nothing particularly nefarious about that, because they'll usually tell you what they (and their family) need most, and you can have a straight-forward, honest conversation, where many are forced to agree they don't care, because they can't really care, about Scope. This is because the benefits thereof are mostly behind them, and the biggest bang for the buck is in issues like retiree medical benefits. So you admit you don't yet care about retiree benefits, but you also agree that there is something to be gained if we stick together, and fight for BOTH objectives.

So maybe for Carl, Scope is an issue to strike alliances over, or a tool to reach out, but if anyone thinks Carl is out here purely to promote Scope and a better union as a sort of philantrophic effort, is hopelessly naive.

Either that, or Carl is the first truly genuiney altruistic pilot in the history of the industry. In which case, we should all line up to wash his feet, and wait to hear more prophecies. Who wants to go first?

 

The good thing about these posts is that your views are not only in writing, but they are dated. Since I've been a member here for almost 4 years, and DPA isn't even 2 years old yet, I invite you to go back to some of my posts dated a year or more before DPA was created. You'll find the exact same concern and preaching about scope from me. Exactly.

This is of course if you actually cared enough to research. Somehow, I'm pretty sure you just came here to throw mud.

Carl