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Old 08-16-2006 | 03:14 PM
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The number of people who actually read those lists is few and far between
Really?????

Try jumpseating sometime Einstein.
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Old 08-16-2006 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Really?????

Try jumpseating sometime Einstein.
I do admit every now and then there may be a denied jumpseat. Easily solved by non-reving, having ID-90s or jumpseating on the regionals. I have yet to fly with a captain at comair that checks "scab lists". I myself do not have a problem jumpseating if I do. I don't commute however I myself am not on a scab list.
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Old 08-16-2006 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by D'Angelo
Absolutely. You pilots want a raise? Get rid of your union theres an instant 2% raise right there!!!! The threat of a union is an extremely valuable tool. In fact it promotes open dialouge with pilots and management. Once a union is in the iron curtain falls. The union then focuses on nothing but getting as much dues as they can. Greedy slobs!!!
I'm truly sorry of what personal experience soured you to Unions and in a perfect world it would be nice to not need Unions, but this isn't a perfect world. The actual threat is the withholding of services, because a threat of unionizing is about as effective as a yo mamma joke; all it did at FedEx is delay for years a legally binding contract.

Oh, long live the scab list....maybe the souring experience is that you're on it.

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Old 08-16-2006 | 04:03 PM
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Sorry D, you just don't get it. These clowns are Scabs, (probably just like you), and want to pretend they didn't cross a picket line and be treated just like everybody else.

Won't happen even if a judge decrees it.
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Old 08-16-2006 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Sorry D, you just don't get it. These clowns are Scabs, (probably just like you), and want to pretend they didn't cross a picket line and be treated just like everybody else.

Won't happen even if a judge decrees it.
Being a scab on the list isn't that much of a problem for your career really. Look at all the ones that have been forgiven by the union. The message is that pay enough money and the problem goes away. Basically the union is using blackmail. I myself am not on a scab list as I work for comair. If I was ever placed on one would I worry? absolutely not. In fact the MEC chair at ASA is an eastern scab. Guess all you have to do is drink the union koolaid and pay lots of dues to get forgiven. No biggie. Also if its treally a problem you can always not commute. Theres always ways to get around hardcore union thugs. They think with misguided passions not their heads.
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Old 08-16-2006 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by D'Angelo
Being a scab on the list isn't that much of a problem for your career really. Look at all the ones that have been forgiven by the union. The message is that pay enough money and the problem goes away. Basically the union is using blackmail. I myself am not on a scab list as I work for comair. If I was ever placed on one would I worry? absolutely not. In fact the MEC chair at ASA is an eastern scab. Guess all you have to do is drink the union koolaid and pay lots of dues to get forgiven. No biggie. Also if its treally a problem you can always not commute. Theres always ways to get around hardcore union thugs. They think with misguided passions not their heads.
I guess your all set at ASA and have no plans to upgrade to the majors. Enjoy your career there. Why not post your name so we can assure you're never hired by one of the large Union carriers?
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Old 08-16-2006 | 05:41 PM
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I guess your all set at ASA and have no plans to upgrade to the majors. Enjoy your career there. Why not post your name so we can assure you're never hired by one of the large Union carriers?
Actually I work for comair. I refer to ASA as the "Always Super Arrogant" pilots. They want the world handed to them and everyone to do the dirty work for them. This however is a story for a different day. As far as posting my name. I think not my friend. I know how to play the union game. Act all "hold the line" and hardcore union etc etc. Get the job then try tochange it from within. The main goal being of course the destruction of unionism in America someday. I doubt I will see it in my lifetime but with the continued work of my friends at the national right to work foundation we will keep fighting the good fight. You see my friends at this foundation provide free legal assistance to any pilot who is the victim of union abuses. This is unlike ALPO where they have to charge you a merger fund just to protect you in the event of a merger. Thats right their lawyers are too incompetent to represent their own pilots in merger talks.
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Old 08-16-2006 | 07:18 PM
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Yo D,

Try the book Flying the Line, the first one for sure. Maybe even read Volume II if you can spare the time from your right to work crusade.

And no I am not some union thug or cheerleader, far from it.

But the first book might give you some perspective why professional pilots need ALPA. It is a history though, might be a dry read.

They want the world handed to them and everyone to do the dirty work for them. This however is a story for a different day.
Are speaking about yourself ? If you REALLY hate unions that much, why are you at COMAIR with an ALPA contract to protect your butt ?

I am sure there are PLENTY of wonderful operators that would love to have your experience and caliber of airman to enrich their seniority list.


Later, CC

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Old 08-16-2006 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CactusCrew
Yo D,

Try the book Flying the Line, the first one for sure. Maybe even read Volume II if you can spare the time from your right to work crusade.

And no I am not some union thug or cheerleader, far from it.

But the first book might give you some perspective why professional pilots need ALPA. It is a history though, might be a dry read.


Are speaking about yourself ? If you REALLY hate unions that much, why are you at COMAIR with an ALPA contract to protect your butt ?

I am sure there are PLENTY of wonderful operators that would love to have your experience and caliber of airman to enrich their seniority list.


Later, CC

I am at comair because they were the first company to offer me a job. I agree unions had their place at airlines in THE PAST. They have no place at airlines today. Outdated archaic laws focus way too much on the rights of unions and not so much on the right to work. My goal is the destruction of unions. I doubt I will live to see this accomplished but some day unions will be beaten at their own game. The important thing to look for now is a future with no unions. Thats right no more protecting the weak and the lazy. The laws are far too liberal as far as allowing "union drama". That means somewhere theres always strike talk or contract negotiations. Thats a load of crap. The right to strike needs to be eliminated NOW!!!!
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Old 08-16-2006 | 07:41 PM
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this guy was on flightinfo.com and got booted for being a moron
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